LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA

Wednesday, December 1, 2021


The House met at 1:30 p.m.

Madam Speaker: O Eternal and Almighty God, from Whom all power and wisdom come, we are assembled here before Thee to frame such laws as may tend to the welfare and prosperity of our province. Grant, O merciful God, we pray Thee, that we may desire only that which is in accordance with Thy will, that we may seek it with wisdom and know it with certainty and accomplish it perfectly for the glory and honour of Thy name and for the welfare of all our people. Amen.

      We acknowl­edge we are gathered on Treaty 1 territory and that Manitoba is located on the treaty territories and ancestral lands of the Anishinaabeg, Anishininewuk, Dakota Oyate, Denesuline and Nehethowuk. We acknowl­edge Manitoba is located on the Homeland of the Red River Métis. We acknowl­edge northern Manitoba includes lands that were and are the ancestral lands of the Inuit. We respect the spirt and intent of treaties and treaty making and remain committed to working in part­ner­ship with First Nations, Inuit and Métis people in the spirit of truth, recon­ciliation and col­lab­o­ration.

      Good afternoon, everybody. Please be seated.

ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS

Introduction of Bills

Bill 209–The Farmers' Markets Week Act

Ms. Janice Morley-Lecomte (Seine River): I move, seconded by the member for La Vérendrye (Mr. Smook), that Bill 209, The Farmers' Markets Week Act, be now read a first time.

Motion presented.

Ms. Morley-Lecomte: I am honoured today to be able to intro­duce The Farmers' Markets Week Act. These small markets have a big impact on the Manitoba economy. In my con­stit­uency, I am proud to have one of Manitoba's largest farmers' markets, the St. Norbert Farmers' Market, and want to bring recog­nition to the enormous impact these local markets have on Manitoba food security, environ­ment and economy. These sus­tain­able food markets are dotted across the province and provide a direct consumer-to-farmer ex­per­ience for many Manitobans.

      I am proud to bring this bill forward to recog­nize the efforts and con­tri­bu­tions of all Manitobans in­volved in making these markets a success.

Madam Speaker: Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion? Agreed? [Agreed]

Committee Reports

Standing Committee on Legis­lative Affairs


First Report

Mr. Dennis Smook (Chairperson): I wish to present the first report of the Standing Committee on Legis­lative Affairs.

Clerk (Ms. Patricia Chaychuk): Your Standing Com­mit­tee on Legis­lative Affairs–

An Honourable Member: Dispense.

Madam Speaker: Dispense.

Your Standing Committee on Legislative Affairs presents the following as its First Report.

Meetings

Your Committee met on November 30, 2021 at 10:00 a.m. in Room 255 of the Legislative Building.

Matters under Consideration

·         Annual Report of Elections Manitoba for the year ending December 31, 2020

Committee Membership

As per the Sessional Order passed by the House on October 7, 2020, amended on November 19, 2020, December 3, 2020, and further amended on May 18, 2021, Rule 83(2) was waived for the November 30, 2021 meeting, reducing the membership to six Members (4 Government and 2 Official Opposition).

·         Ms. Fontaine

·         Hon. Mr. Goertzen

·         MLA Marcelino

·         Hon. Mr. Reyes

·         Mr. Smook

·         Mr. Wowchuk

Your Committee elected Mr. Smook as the Chairperson

Your Committee elected Mr. Wowchuk as the Vice‑Chairperson

Officials speaking on the record:

·         Ms. Shipra Verma, Chief Electoral Officer

Reports Considered and Passed

Your Committee considered and passed the following report as presented:

Annual Report of Elections Manitoba for the year ending December 31, 2020

Mr. Smook: I move, seconded by the hon­our­able member for Swan River (Mr. Wowchuk), that the report of the com­mit­tee be received.

Motion agreed to.

Standing Committee on Justice


First Report

Mr. Len Isleifson (Chairperson): I wish to present the first report of the Standing Committee on Justice.

Clerk: Your Standing Com­mit­tee on Justice presents–

An Honourable Member: Dispense.

Madam Speaker: Dispense.

Your Standing Committee on Justice presents the following as its First Report.

Meetings

Your Committee met on November 30, 2021 at 6:00 p.m. in Room 255 of the Legislative Building.

Matters under Consideration

·         Bill (No. 3) The Family Maintenance Amendment Act / Loi modifiant la Loi sur l'obligation alimentaire

Committee Membership

As per the Sessional Order passed by the House on October 7, 2020, amended on November 19, 2020, December 3, 2020, and further amended on May 18, 2021, Rule 83(2) was waived for the November 30, 2021 meeting, reducing the membership to six Members (4 Government and 2 Official Opposition).

·         MLA Asagwara

·         Hon. Mrs. Cox

·         Ms. Fontaine

·         Hon. Mr. Friesen

·         Mr. Isleifson

·         Mr. Nesbitt

Your Committee elected Mr. Isleifson as the Chairperson.

Your Committee elected Mr. Nesbitt as the Vice‑Chairperson.

Non-Committee Members Speaking on Record

·         Hon. Mr. Gerrard

Public Presentations

Your Committee heard the following 11 presentations on Bill (No. 3) The Family Maintenance Amendment Act / Loi modifiant la Loi sur l'obligation alimentaire:

Jill Stockwell, Private citizen

Robynne Kazina, Private citizen

Paul Bruch-Wiens, Private citizen

Reannah Hocken, Manitoba Bar Association

Allison Fenske, Public Interest Law Centre

Lisa McConnell and Bradley Miller (by leave), Private citizens

Lisa Davies McDonald, Private citizen

Brianna Darbel, Private citizen

Joel Lebois, Private citizen

Matt Erhard, Private citizen

Courtney Maddock, Private citizen

Bills Considered and Reported

·         Bill (No. 3) The Family Maintenance Amendment Act / Loi modifiant la Loi sur l'obligation alimentaire

Your Committee agreed to report this Bill without amendment.

Mr. Isleifson: Madam Speaker, I move, seconded by the hon­our­able member of Riding Mountain, that the report of the com­mit­tee be received.

Motion agreed to.

Madam Speaker: Tabling of reports?

Ministerial Statements

Madam Speaker: The honourable Minister of Health–and I would indicate that the required 90 minutes notice prior to routine proceedings was provided in accordance with rule 26(2).

      Would the honourable minister please proceed with her statement.

World AIDS Day

Hon. Audrey Gordon (Minister of Health and Seniors Care): Today members in the House are wear­ing a red ribbon in support of World AIDS Day. The ribbon honours those who have lost their lives to AIDS and recognizes the need to support Manitobans who are living with HIV/AIDS.

      Over the course of the last 30 years, science has made significant progress in treating HIV and AIDS, though it still carries a stigma that needs to be ad­dressed. In Manitoba, we are taking an evidence-based approach which includes prevention, testing, treatment and care for HIV/AIDS.

      In October, our government announced that we were expanding Pharma­care coverage to include HIV pre-exposure 'prophelixic,' or PrEP. Adding PrEP to the Manitoba drug formulary increased access to this life-saving medication.

      We added new public health nurse positions to support STBBI case and contact manage­ment and en­hance STBBI testing and treatment for priority pop­ula­tions. Over the last three years, our government has increased investments in harm reduction networks and peer advisory councils by $850,000 to better reach high-risk populations and connect them to care.

      And today, Madam Speaker, public health has re­leased its annual statistical update on HIV and AIDS.

      We can make safer choices to reduce the risk of infection, encourage more people to be tested, build on increased investments in preventing the spread of AIDS and support people who are living with AIDS.

      Today we acknowledge those who are living with HIV or AIDS and who have had the bravery to share their stories. They reduce the stigma of having to live with AIDS, one story at a time, and encourage us to do more to build a world without AIDS.

      Thank you, Madam Speaker.

MLA Uzoma Asagwara (Union Station): On World AIDS Day, the Manitoba NDP recognizes those in our  province living with HIV and AIDS and reiterates our support for them as they seek to live full and healthy, happy lives.

      Manitobans living with HIV and AIDS continue to face medical challenges in treatment and care. Advancements in treatment have drastically improved the length and quality of life of those living with HIV and AIDS, but a supportive health-care system is need­ed to ensure that these treatments can be accessed.

      On this front, this PC government has been conspicuous for being the last government in all of Canada to approve coverage for pre-exposure prophylactic–prophylaxis, or PrEP, a revolutionary preventative medication that reduces the risk of contracting HIV from sex by 99 per cent. This PC government's reluctance to act is especially shocking as we see HIV rates skyrocketing in Manitoba.

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      Now this PC government has the opportunity to improve their last-in-the-country reputation for HIV and AIDS treatment by committing to supporting and funding safe consumption sites and other service pro­viders and resource centres across our province.

      But while this government continues with its thoughts-and-prayers approach to our health-care sys­tem, organizations on the ground continue to do the work the Pallister–continue to do the work the gov­ern­ments under Pallister and Stefanson were not doing in providing Manitobans with the treatment and sup­port they need–

Madam Speaker: Order. [interjection] Order, please.

      I would just ask the table to stop the clock for a minute, please.

      Just a bit of a slip there. I just remind the member that if they want to use that phrase, it has to be the Pallister-Stefanson gov­ern­ments.

MLA Asagwara: I apologize for that mistake, Madam Speaker.

      But while this gov­ern­ment continues with its thoughts-and-prayers approach to our health-care sys­tem, organi­zations on the ground continue to do the Pallister-Stefanson gov­ern­ments' work for them by provi­ding Manitobans with the treatment and support they need.

      In parti­cular, I'd like to highlight the work of the Manitoba Harm Reduction Network and Nine Circles Community Health Centre, which provide culturally appropriate care, treatment, support and advocacy for those living with HIV and AIDS.

      Your work is appreciated by the NDP members of this caucus and in this Chamber. We will continue to  stand with you and with all Manitobans living with HIV and AIDS.

Mr. Dougald Lamont (St. Boniface): Madam Speaker, I ask for leave to speak in response to the min­is­ter's statement.

Madam Speaker: Does the member have leave to respond to the statement? [Agreed]

Mr. Lamont: Today is World AIDS Day. It is im­portant, in the middle of this COVID‑19 pandemic, to recall that HIV/AIDS remains one of the most deadly pandemics in history: 35 million people around the world died of HIV. May they rest in peace.

      When I was a teenager growing up in the 1980s, I remember the fear of this epidemic, a disease that was spreading, that was incurable and that was a death sentence.

And I want to hail someone who is a friend and a personal hero to me, Jim Kane. Jim is an activist who marched in the first-ever Pride parade in Winnipeg, and he's been HIV-positive since 1986.

      In 2015, he told the CBC of his diagnosis that: there was a lot of shame attached to it. I believe it was  1987, and the panic and fear gripped Winnipeg at the time. It's unbelievable I am still alive. When I was diagnosed, I was planning my life in a two-year cycle, not 20 years. When I was 30, I thought I would live forever. When I was 32, I thought I was dying. I had to learn this through adversity.

      Jim is alive today because of astonishing break­throughs in medical treatment and antivirals that turned a disease that was a death sentence into a chronic, manageable condition. We have to thank the courageous activists who challenged myths and stigma around safe sex, HIV/AIDS and treatments in order to make this possible.

      The Manitoba government does need to make its HIV program easier and more accessible with less hoops to jump through for both providers and patients. In Alberta and BC, for instance, drugs that prevent and cover HIV are covered 100 per cent without a deductible.

      It's also critical to talk about the shattering impact an HIV/AIDS diagnosis can have on someone's men­tal health: fear, anxiety, depression, stigma and isola­tion. We need mental health supports as well.

      As a province, the University of Manitoba has done some of the most important work in the world on HIV/AIDS, and their work should be an inspiration to all of us.

      The goal of world AIDS today is to eradicate HIV/AIDS, as other diseases have been, by 2030.

      Thank you to everyone like Jim Kane who made this hope a real possi­bility.

Members' Statements

Curling Week in Manitoba

Hon. Wayne Ewasko (Minister of Advanced Education, Skills and Immigration): I am pleased to rise today to remind all members that Manitoba curling week occurs on the third week each January and, in 2022, will occur from January 16th to 22nd.

      Manitoba curling week typically kicks off with the Manitoba Open, the largest curling bonspiel in the world, from January 13th to 17th.

      As we emerge from the pandemic, CurlManitoba has done an admirable job in its return-to-play plans and adapting to ongoing public health protocols, and I want to thank its executive director, Craig Baker, and his staff, along with board president, Ray Baker, for their leadership.

      As you know, curling is in my blood and both my family and extended family enjoy the sport im­mensely, ever since we were able to throw a rock down a sheet of ice.

      Curling is an inclusive sport open to people of all ages and abilities, and the game is even adaptable to those with physical disabilities. It is also a fun and interactive sport for all genders, played by both adults and kids of all ages of varying levels.

      Manitoba, as a winter province, allows curling to be a grassroots sport designed to get many in­dividuals from local communities to play the game either recrea­­tionally or competitively. Manitoba has many curling clubs and rinks around the province and is often the hotbed for having the best curlers, coaches, volunteers and, I would unapologetically add, the best icemakers in the world.

      Madam Speaker, I want to recognize the 18 elite curling men's and women's teams that participated in the 2021 Canadian Olympic curling trials this past weekend.

      The exciting all-Manitobas final resulted in Team Jennifer Jones winning the curling trials over Team Tracy Fleury to represent Canada again at the 2022 Beijing Olympics in February.

      Congratulations also to Team Brad Gushue, who will represent the men's side.

      Returning back to Manitoba curling week, I en­courage everyone to visit, support and promote their local curling clubs this winter, and to even consider playing the wonderful sport.

      In closing, as the House will rise tomorrow, Madam Speaker, I want to take a moment to wish each  and every member as well as staff of the Manitoba Legislative Assembly a very merry Christmas and a safe and wonderful holiday season.

      Thank you, Madam Speaker.

Madam Speaker: The hon­our­able Minister of Advanced Edu­ca­tion.

Mr. Ewasko: I would like to ask for leave so we could add the names of Team Jennifer Jones' teammates into Hansard. [interjection]

Madam Speaker: Apparently, the member does not have to do that anymore.

Jennifer Jones, Kaitlyn Lawes, Dawn McEwen, Jocelyn Peterman, Lisa Weagle; and Viktor Kjell.

Helen Betty Osborne

Ms. Amanda Lathlin (The Pas-Kameesak): Fifty years ago, on November 13th, 1971, Helen Betty Osborne–[interjection]

Madam Speaker: Order.

Ms. Lathlin: –was abducted, brutally raped and mur­dered. Justice in her case was denied for far too long. We must never forget.

      Betty was a young Cree woman from Norway House Cree Nation. She attended high school in The Pas to pursue her dream of becoming a teacher. Her attackers were four non-Indigenous men. Only one was ever convicted, 16 years after her death. Her family and the Indigenous community remember this miscarriage of justice. Justice delayed is justice denied.

      On November 13th, leadership and community members from both sides of the Saskatchewan River in The Pas, along with Betty's friends and family, gathered to commemorate 50 years since her death. On that day, The Pas Mayor Herb Jaques gave a heart­felt apology and demonstrated true reconciliation.

      Everyone gathered was all too aware that five other women from the region remain missing or were found murdered with few answers about what happened to them. Kendara Ballantyne, Josie Martin, Amanda Bartlett, Irene Gamblin-Kastrukoff and Elizabeth Dorion are five of at least 1,500 missing or murdered Indigenous women and girls in Canada, though that number is likely much higher. The impact of these unsolved cases and murders is devastating to families and communities.

      As a society, we must do more to bring justice to the victims, their families and Indigenous com­mun­ities. We continue to fight against systemic racism, marginalization and abuse of our Indigenous women and girls. We must remember their names and stories, and keep them from becoming simply a statistic.

      The most important way to honour Helen Betty Osborne's legacy is to fight against all of the factors which continue to put women and girls like her at risk of violence and murder.

      Always loved, never forgotten, forever missed.

      Ekosi.

ANAVETS Assiniboia 283

Hon. Scott Fielding (Minister of Finance): Today I want to recognize the executive council of ANAVETS Assiniboia 283, located in Kirkfield Park.

      The army, navy and air force veterans of Canada, also known as ANAVETS, is the oldest veterans' organization in the country. Established in Montreal in 1840, ANAVETS Canada is known for a non-profit organization with over 15,000 members, Madam Speaker, in 67 units across Canada.

      Madam Speaker, 75 years ago this meeting was held–for unit 283 was held in Winnipeg at the current site of the Historical Museum of St. James-Assiniboia in the old Assiniboia municipal hall. The charter executive council was esta­blished, and then July 13th, 1946, ANAVETS 283 was officially opened.

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      Also known as the Friendly Club, ANAVETS 283 provides a safe and welcoming place for veterans and community members to gather and socialize. Located at 3584 Portage Ave., they offer several sports leagues, live music and dancing, bingo, meat draws. They also have things like hall rentals, catering services and special events to be available.

      With almost 500 members of ANAVETS 283, it takes a team of dedicated volunteers to manage the club and really maintain the building and the numer­ous social activities being offered. The work is often behind the scenes, requiring countless hours, whether either painting, planning, meeting, managing, up­keep­ing or even more.

      Madam Speaker, I want to personally thank president Len Cook and special events chair Ken Cade for regular communications and dedication to the suc­cess of ANAVETS 283.

      I'd also like to ensure that all the members of ANAVETS 283 executive council are included in Hansard, Madam Speaker.

Honorary president, Gord Criggar; past president, Hayden Kent; president, Len Cook; 1st vice-president, ways and means advisor and treasurer, Bill Sadler; 2nd vice-resident and sports, Rae Roberts; recording secretary and public relations, Brenda Walls; member­ship, Leo Barron; lotteries, Gord Watt; enter­tain­ment, Bernice Kwasnicki; social and moral service officer, Donna Hartie; special events and grants, Ken Cade; building and maintenance, John Blair; ladies auxiliary president, Elvia Furutani; over 55 plus retired president, Roger Briand; Canadian veterans MB and supporters, Sven Leppik; Sgt-At-Arms, Rae Roberts; acting pipe major, Bill McQuarrie; unit padre, Reverend Canon Dr. Murray Still.

Communities 4 Families

Ms. Lisa Naylor (Wolseley): I am pleased to rise today to congratulate Communities 4 Families on 20 years of service to families within the Wolseley constituency and downtown Winnipeg.

      Communities 4 Families is one of 26 distinct Healthy Child Coalitions across the province that was facing an uncertain future after being defunded by this government. To their great surprise, funding was reinstated last week. This is too late to save all the  Healthy Child Coalitions, but, thankfully for down­town Winnipeg, Communities 4 Families will continue.

      Guided by four pillars–parenting support, healthy living, literacy and building community capacity–Communities 4 Families provides programming for  families with children zero to six that address the  specific challenges of living in a downtown urban environment.

      Communities 4 Families has focused on equip­ping and empowering existing community services with evidence-based, specialized training and mentor­ship. They have provided training for over 1,000 facilitators and $800,000 in grants to more than 100 downtown agencies that have helped increase food security for children and families, develop lead­ers from within and provide ongoing education to volunteers and staff.

      In 2004, Communities 4 Families developed Wiggle, Giggle & Munch, an award-winning, nation­ally recognized parent-child program that promotes physical literacy, healthy relationships and nutrition. Sticks & Stones was piloted in 2018, an outdoor play  program designed for families who don't have easy access to nature. More recent programs include Tapping into Resiliency Through Storytelling, Reaching In, Reaching Out resiliency skills training and a workshop for dads called Gentle Heroes.

      The tremendous impact of Communities 4 Families in the Wolseley constituency and beyond cannot be overstated. Every year, hundreds of families have a safe place to get to know each other, access vital supports and become a part of each other's social safety net.

      Please join me in congratulating the coalition on 20 years of innovative and dedicated service.

Kyle Machan

Mr. Rick Wowchuk (Swan River): I rise in the House today to recognize a young entrepreneur in our con­stit­uency, Kyle Machan.

      Kyle is proud father of two boys, and he and his wife Ellie chose to raise their family in the Swan Valley. In Kyle's words, we are blessed to live in Manitoba.

      Kyle graduated from the SVRSS. In 2003, Kyle and Ellie started Rumors Skate and Snow. Rumors created three full-time jobs and multiple part-time jobs for youth in the valley. The floor size was recently expanded and another expansion is in the horizon.

      In 2006, Kyle and Ellie purchased a graphic design busi­ness, Sign Here. This business employed five full-time and one part-time position.

      Kyle's connection to his community inspired him to become involved in an industry where he could motivate youth to pursue their dreams right here in Manitoba. When the opportunity to teach graphic design at the SVRSS presented itself, Kyle took on the challenge. He successfully completed the–his voca­tional teaching degree at Red River College, receiving his diploma this past summer.

      Kyle started the Skateboard Union in 2009, an organization dedicated to seeing the creation of a concrete skateboard plaza in Swan River. After three years of fundraising and local support, they opened the 8,000-square-foot Swan River Lions skate park. The skate park sees constant use, summer and winter, for all ages.

      This past year, Kyle began pursuing plans to develop a current trail system into a four-season des­tina­tion incorporating the Thunderhill Ski Area to attract tourism to the area.

      Kyle's No. 1 takeaway is keep pushing each other up, as this builds the backbone of Manitoba's eco­nomy. Kyle's motto is to support growth, support local and encourage Manitobans to get out and explore our great province and all the beauty it has to offer. There is no place like home.

      Thank you.

Speaker's Statement

Madam Speaker: I have a statement for the House.

      I am pleased to intro­duce to you the first annual report of the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba. This report is located on the desks of members in the House today and is being delivered to members attending virtually. Our Assembly staff have undertaken many significant initiatives since 2016 and it is important that we share them with you.

      This report delivers insight into the unique role our organization plays in Manitoba's parliamentary system through the services that we provide to members and to Manitobans.

      This report highlights–presents highlights of the work undertaken by members of the Legislative Assembly and the efforts of the Legislative Assembly administration in supporting members' daily activi­ties. By opening a window into the workings of the Manitoba Legislative Assembly and increasing the public understanding of our parliamentary system, this report contributes to the transparent public gov­ernance expected by Manitobans.

      We have many accomplishments to share. This first annual report covers the four years from 2016 to 2020. Our next report will cover 2020 to 2022, and thereafter, each report will be released annually.

      I hope you enjoy reading Our Story.

      Thank you.

Oral Questions

Manitoba's Health-Care System
Cost of Private Agency Nurses

Mr. Wab Kinew (Leader of the Official Opposition): Madam Speaker, I want to tell you how good it is to be back and to hear that land acknowl­edgement in person.

      Just want to take a moment to say thank you to everyone who's reached out, to my colleagues, to friends across the aisle, to people in the com­mu­nity who offered well wishes, prayers, did contactless deliveries. It really means a lot to see that outpouring after my COVID‑19 diagnosis.

      I also want to say that I feel like living in an area with access to clean water, housing, economic op­por­tun­ity, exercise really made a difference as well, and so it's just renewed my commit­ment to addressing the social determinants of health. I also recog­nize that I probably would've gotten much sicker had I not had two doses of the vaccine. So I encourage everyone to please get vaccinated just as soon as you can.

      And, of course, we have to fix our health-care system.

      On that: today we are going to show that the Province has spent more than $22 million on agency nurses so far this year, not including Winnipeg.

      Why does the PC leader want to spend so much money at private nurses instead of investing in the public health-care system?

Hon. Heather Stefanson (Premier): I just wanted to say to the member opposite that–glad he is better. I'm  not sure if I am allowed to refer–the fact that he's back here, but we're glad to see his face here today, Madam Speaker, and so we certainly wish him well and–he and his family.

      Madam Speaker, with respect to the member's question, of course, it's incumbent upon us–we know that there is a nursing shortage not just in Manitoba but, indeed, across the country. We recog­nize there's a challenge. That's why we've announced 400 new nursing seats through our post-secondary in­sti­tutions. We've also recog­nized the internationally educated nurses and are moving some of those individuals into nursing positions as we speak.

      We know that there's more work to be done. We recog­nize that and we're moving in that direction.

Madam Speaker: The honourable Leader of the Official Opposition, on a supplementary question.

Mr. Kinew: Madam Speaker, the Pallister gov­ern­ment's nursing shortage is costing Manitobans. It means fewer nurses at the bedside and it means that our health-care system has to pay more to provide the existing level of services. I'll table the docu­ments to prove it.

      We see that so far this year–not even at the year end–Southern Health has spent $2.4 million on private staff; Northern Health has spent 7 and a half million; Interlake-Eastern has spent $1.8 million. Prairie Mountain, though, took the cake, with the numbers we have so far, at 10 and a half million. That's $22 million so far this year to for-profit com­panies, and the gov­ern­ment won't even give us the numbers for the Winnipeg health region.

      Why does the former Health minister think it's better to give $22 million to private health companies rather than investing in our public system?

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Mrs. Stefanson: Certainly, first and foremost, our­–what we want to do and achieve is to ensure that all Manitobans are safe in our hospital systems, and that requires from time to time–even under the previous NDP gov­ern­ment–to reach out to private organi­zations to offer those services.

      I hope the member opposite is not suggesting that we don't reach out to those, because that would cer­tainly jeopardize patient safety, and I don't think anyone would want to go there. At least, I don't think so, Madam Speaker.

Madam Speaker: The honourable Leader of the Official Opposition, on a final supplementary.

Mr. Kinew: Madam Speaker, the PC leader is overpaying–[interjection]

Madam Speaker: Order.

Mr. Kinew: –to deliver the existing level of service. That's what happens when you have to turn to private nursing firms. It also leads to longer waits and fewer nurses at the bedside.

      The PC leader tries to ignore the fact that she is respon­si­ble for creating the nursing shortage, along with Brian Pallister. We see that this $22 million that they're spending on agency nurses this year is merely a symptom–[interjection]

Madam Speaker: Order.

Mr. Kinew: –of the problems that we see in the health-care system province-wide. And again, that's $22 million–[interjection]

Madam Speaker: Order.

Mr. Kinew: –outside the Perimeter; they won't even release the figures for the Winnipeg health region.

      Will the former Health minister stop spending millions on private health care and instead start hiring more nurses to deliver health care publicly in Manitoba?

Mrs. Stefanson: What I want to do is just say that this has obviously been–this is a national issue that all provinces are facing. It's a challenge that we have re­cog­nized, and we're taking steps in the right direction, Madam Speaker.

      What I want to say is, Assiniboine Com­mu­nity College President Mark Frison said that our gov­ern­ment's nursing target is welcome news and that they will do every­thing possible to contribute to adding 400 more nursing graduates, Madam Speaker.

      He also commented that ACC is already well positioned for this, as–[interjection]

Madam Speaker: Order.

Mrs. Stefanson: –last year, there were 220 nursing graduates, Madam Speaker, and 100 per cent of those received em­ploy­ment in Manitoba. We think that's good. We have more work to do; we're committed to doing that work.

Madam Speaker: The hon­our­able Leader of the Official Op­posi­tion, on a new question.

Transfer of Seniors Out of Community
Con­stit­uent Case Concern

Mr. Wab Kinew (Leader of the Official Opposition): Madam Speaker, it seems that each day, we learn more about the human toll that the Pallister-Stefanson gov­ern­ments' health-care cuts are taking on Manitobans.

      Judy Tomlinson's mother is 94 years old. Now, Mom was recently admitted to St. Boniface Hospital with a health con­di­tion. However, Judy, her primary caregiver, was shocked to see that her mother was then arranged and transferred to Hamiota, some 300 kilometres away.

      Now, Judy's mother had suffered a heart attack, she has a serious infection and also early stages of de­mentia. And amidst all that, she was taken away from her family and transported across the province.

      This has to stop.

      Will the former Health minister stop transferring patients hundreds of kilometres away from their loved ones? [interjection]

Madam Speaker: Order. Order. Order.

Hon. Heather Stefanson (Premier): COVID‑19 has obviously had many challenges, and many families have been challenged as a result of COVID‑19, Madam Speaker. And, of course, our thoughts go out there to all of those who have been in difficult positions within their families.

      And I know that, when movements are made and patient flow within the hospitalization system, we know that those are made by clinicians, by those within the medical system itself. Those are not de­cisions that are made by gov­ern­ment; we don't inter­vene in those decisions.

      And they're made based on the safety of those individuals, and we want to ensure that those deci­sions continue to be made based on safety, not based on what members opposite may say.

Madam Speaker: The honourable Leader of the Official Op­posi­tion, on a supplementary question.

Mr. Kinew: Madam Speaker, this is about what Judy Tomlinson says; this is about the impact on the care of her mom. Your mom. Think about that.

      Ninety-four years old. It took nearly seven hours to transport Judy's mom to Hamiota because of bad roads. She didn't eat for nearly a day because of the transfer.

      This is how we're treating seniors in Manitoba? We should all be ashamed. This is not how we should be treating seniors. This is not how we should be treating people as they try and recover from their health challenges, yet it's a direct result of the chaos and the mis­manage­ment that we've seen from the Pallister-Stefanson gov­ern­ments when it comes to health care.

      Will the Premier finally take a different path? Will she withdraw this policy of moving seniors hundreds of kilometres away from their loved ones?

Mrs. Stefanson: Challenges have been created as a result of COVID‑19. We know that. That's why patient flow within the hospital system is in­cred­ibly im­por­tant.

      We need to make sure that that flow continues so that there's access to those who are suffering from severe illnesses, from heart attacks, from COVID, for other–from other things–that they have the access to the ICU–[interjection]

Madam Speaker: Order.

Mrs. Stefanson: –and the hospitalization that they need when they need it.

      And so, those decisions are made based on–for those reasons, which is primarily patient safety and en­suring that we have a hospital system that's there for Manitobans when they need it. [interjection]

Madam Speaker: Order. Order.

      The honourable Leader of the Official Opposition, on a final supplementary.

Mr. Kinew: Madam Speaker, let's be clear: the PC gov­ern­ment should not be moving seniors around the province like pieces on a chessboard. These are human beings we're talking about. We're talking about Judy Tomlinson; we're talking about her mother.

      This is serious. This is not worthy of heckling. Because of the cuts, because of the chaos in health care, seniors are being transported hours away from supports, hours away from what they need to have a strong recovery.

      When will this policy end, or are we simply to embrace the new normal of having seniors transported hundreds of kilometres away from their families?

Mrs. Stefanson: The member opposite continues to put false infor­ma­tion on the record by stating that there's cuts in health care. That's simply not the case, Madam Speaker: $6.98 billion overall funding–that's an increase of $156 million from last year alone.

      We have made sig­ni­fi­cant invest­ments in our health-care system over the course of the last little while. What the member opposite doesn't want to re­cog­nize is the fact that there is a worldwide pandemic on and it has been on for the last 18 to 20 months.

      Madam Speaker, we recog­nize there's been challenges to our health-care system. We know that difficult decisions have to be made, and those deci­sions are made by pro­fes­sionals within the system itself. Those are difficult positions as a result of COVID‑19, a worldwide pandemic.

Surgical and Diag­nos­tic Procedure Backlog
Request for Gov­ern­ment to Address

MLA Uzoma Asagwara (Union Station): A Manitoban was living with severe mouth pain that prevented him from eating normally. He was told he needed minor dental surgery, a surgery that would typically be covered by Manitoba Health. But knowing of the huge backlog in surgeries that exist, caused by the Pallister-Stefanson gov­ern­ments, he knew he could be facing months, even years of pain until he got the surgery that he needs.

      Because it was impacting his ability to eat normally, the individual knew he had to take matters into his own hands. He couldn't wait, so he paid for dental surgery out of his own pocket.

      Why does the minister think it's okay for individ­uals to pay out of their own pocket, and will she set a date, finally, for when the surgical backlog will be cleared?

Hon. Audrey Gordon (Minister of Health and Seniors Care): After preparing for the fourth wave, there is no higher priority than addressing the surgery and diag­nos­tic backlog.

      Individuals who have specific cases that they would like to raise can raise that with my de­part­ment. We would be more than pleased to look into individ­ual situations.

      Our gov­ern­ment is committed to addressing the surgical and diag­nos­tic backlog, and an an­nounce­ment is forthcoming.

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Madam Speaker: The honourable member for Union Station, on a supplementary question.

MLA Asagwara: The minister isn't getting back to citizens who reach out, which is why we're raising these questions in the House.

      He had to pay $1,200 out of pocket for a surgery that should be free, Madam Speaker. More and more, we're seeing Manitobans paying out of pocket for these procedures that they should be able to get for free here at home.

      Whether it's $1,000 or $20,000, no Manitoban should have to pay out of pocket for some­thing that should be covered under Manitoba Health. It shouldn't even be an option that they consider. But, sadly, that's what it's come to, because people are living in pro­longed pain because of the cuts made by the Pallister-Stefanson gov­ern­ments. It's wrong.

      Will the minister announce real dollars and real action imme­diately that will help address this backlog?

Ms. Gordon: Perhaps the member was absent from the Legis­lative Building on the day when our gov­ern­ment made the invest­ment of $50 million, Madam Speaker, to address the surgical and diag­nos­tic backlog.

      Perhaps the member was also absent when we put forward four separate requests for service arrange­ments that are currently leading to 11,000 ad­di­tional procedures being addressed–being–to address the back­log of surgeries and diagnostics, and our fifth RFSA closed on October 27th. Looking forward to sharing the results of those proposals with Manitobans.

      We have made invest­ments. We'll continue to make invest­ments to ensure Manitobans have the care that they need right here at home.

Madam Speaker: The honourable member for Union Station, on a final supplementary.

MLA Asagwara: Madam Speaker, an­nounce­ments do not equal action.

      It is Wednesday, December 1st. It's been a month since this PC leader said she was going to announce a task force. It's been weeks since both the minister and PC leader have said stay tuned.

      Manitobans are insulted. They cannot wait any longer, and they shouldn't be forced to pay out of pocket for some­thing this gov­ern­ment should be provi­ding. So, enough with the thoughts and prayers, and enough with the stay tuned.

      Will the minister commit to a date the surgical backlog will be cleared and provide the resources necessary to achieve that imme­diately? [interjection]

Madam Speaker: Order.

Ms. Gordon: I know the members opposite, their plan is always to fear monger and to cast doubt in the minds of Manitobans that we are going to address their need for surgeries–[interjection]

Madam Speaker: Order.

Ms. Gordon: –and diag­nos­tic tests.

      We have provided–$13.7 million has been spent to date for 8,300 procedures, Madam Speaker; four requests for supply arrangements in the amount of $8.1 million; $5.6 million in service delivery organi­zations. For priority procedures, such as hips, knees, cataracts: more news to come.

      I'm glad the member is looking forward to my an­nounce­ment. I welcome the entire NDP caucus to join us for that an­nounce­ment. Looking forward to sharing with Manitobans our goals.

Northern Health Region
Staffing and Funding Concerns

Mr. Tom Lindsey (Flin Flon): Different leader, same PC party.

      One out of every four RN positions in the North sits empty. These are the vacancy rates as of November 1st of this year: Thompson, 29 per cent; Snow Lake, 50 per cent; Leaf Rapids, 53 per cent; Lynn Lake, an astonishing 80 per cent vacancy rate. The situation is worse, not better.

      Will the minister take respon­si­bility and acknowl­edge the staffing crisis they have created in the North, and fix it now?

Hon. Audrey Gordon (Minister of Health and Seniors Care): Madam Speaker, the issue of the nursing shortage is not unique to Manitoba. It's been seen across the country, internationally, around the world.

      And we are taking steps. That is why our gov­ern­ment has invested dollars to create 400 new nursing edu­ca­tion seats. Madam Speaker, 1,200 interna­tionally educated nurses have applied to the program that members on this side of the House created to address the mess that they left for us.

      Madam Speaker, we will continue to assist our regional health author­ities to fill those positions as quickly as possible.

Madam Speaker: The hon­our­able member for Flin Flon, on a sup­ple­mentary question.

Mr. Lindsey: Madam Speaker, cuts to northern health care have taken a toll. So far this year, they've spent $7.5 million in the Northern Health Region for agency care. That's many times more than it used to be. The region is relying more and more on temporary supports to deal with structural problems. This isn't the care we need in the North.

      Why is the minister okay with spending so many millions of dollars on private for-profit agency care when we need permanent nurses in the North today?

Ms. Gordon: Madam Speaker, $1.18 billion in ad­di­tional funding to Health. We added 60 new full-time nursing positions to ICUs in Brandon, Grace Hospital, St. Boniface and HSC. We've also committed–[interjection]

Madam Speaker: Order.

Ms. Gordon: –the largest capital invest­ment in the history of this province: $812 million. We will be creating a hub where individuals can access care in the North. We continue to support our trans­por­tation pro­grams to ensure that people living in the North can get the care they need.

      We are supporting the northern regions, and we'll continue to do so.

Madam Speaker: The hon­our­able member for Flin Flon, on a final sup­ple­mentary.

Mr. Lindsey: Madam Speaker, I table the funding letter for the northern region.

      The former minister of Health–now the PC leader and Premier (Mrs. Stefanson)–approved this. It in­cludes $2.3 million in cuts such as: eliminates travel subsidies for those who need to travel within the region, like Flin Flon folks who now have to travel to  The Pas to give birth; cuts to physician overtime, if they need to travel; cuts to registered nurses in personal-care homes–like people in personal-care homes don't need proper care.

      Why is this minister and the PC leader committed to following Brian Pallister's legacy? Will they imme­diately take action to fix the problems that they continue to create?

Ms. Gordon: Madam Speaker, I'm pleased to rise in the House to con­gratu­late the Uni­ver­sity College of the North, which has created a new nursing diploma program that will add 20 new seats in–based in Thompson. And–

An Honourable Member: Is that in the North?

Ms. Gordon: That's the North.

      Our gov­ern­ment has also doubled–[interjection]

Madam Speaker: Order.

Ms. Gordon: –the NDP's funding of the north­ern patient transport program from $7.9 million to $18.1 million, Madam Speaker. With the invest­ments we will be making with the $812 million in capital funding, we are working with our northern partners on the creation of a northern hub–[interjection]

Madam Speaker: Order.

Ms. Gordon: –which will reduce the need for in­divid­uals living in the North to travel to Winnipeg and will get care closer to home. That is the northern invest­ments–

Madam Speaker: The member's time has expired.

Access to Addiction Treatment Services
Call for Inquest into Mr. Earnshaw's Death

Mrs. Bernadette Smith (Point Douglas): In the first half of this year, 199 people died–drug-related deaths, according to the Office of the Chief Medical Examiner. And if that pace keeps up, Manitoba will quickly surpass last year's overdose deaths.

      This is an epidemic, Madam Speaker, and must be treated as such, yet people like Lee Earnshaw, who was actively seeking help, are not able to get the supports that they des­per­ately need here in Manitoba.

      Will the minister call for an inquest into the death of Lee Earnshaw so that we can see where the gaps and deficiencies are in our addictions treatment and care systems today?

Hon. Audrey Gordon (Minister of Mental Health, Wellness and Recovery): Madam Speaker, the loss of life due to overdose or substance use is very tragic. That is why our gov­ern­ment created the min­is­try of Mental Health, Wellness and Recovery, so that we could address these issues straight–directly.

      And that is why we're currently talking to individuals with lived ex­per­ience across the province, with service delivery organi­zations, so that we can develop the five-year action plan to address the issues for individuals struggling with overdose and mental health issues.

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Madam Speaker: The hon­our­able member for Point Douglas, on a supplementary question.

Need for Harm Reduction Investments

Mrs. Smith: Advocates are begging this gov­ern­ment to invest in safe con­sump­tion sites, more treatment beds and long-term-treatment centres.

      St. Boniface Street Links Executive Director Marion Willis said that lean–Lee Earnshaw, and I quote, wanted his sober life back and he knew that it was possible because he had done it before, but he couldn't do it in Winnipeg, Manitoba, because we simply don't have the system of care to support him. End quote.

      We need to figure out where our addictions treat­ment and care systems are lacking so that we can bol­ster them and ensure that they do better.

      Will the minister call for an inquest into lean–Lee Earnshaw's death and commit to working on a harm‑reduction strategy that includes safe con­sump­tion sites here in Manitoba?

Ms. Gordon: Our gov­ern­ment committed to esta­blish­­ing and creating 100 new sup­port­ive recovery housing beds and we fulfilled that commit­ment, Madam Speaker. Looking forward to having the final 40 beds come online in early January at Riverwood House.

      We've also esta­blished the RAAM clinics, some­thing that didn't exist under the NDP's guidance. We've–we expanded access to naloxone, a non-addictive drug that can block the effects of an opiate overdose, Madam Speaker.

      We will continue to support Manitobans, to listen to Manitobans through our con­sul­ta­tion of round-table discussions, to ensure that we meet their needs going forward.

Madam Speaker: The honourable member for Point Douglas, on a final supplementary.

Mrs. Smith: Whether or not they mean to, this gov­ern­ment reveals its priorities in so many ways. They still have not appointed a mental health, wellness and 'recovermint'–recovery minister, still haven't taken action on safe con­sump­tion sites and still won't call an inquest into the death of Lee Earnshaw.

      Lee Earnshaw's death paints a clear picture–[interjection]

Madam Speaker: Order.

Mrs. Smith: –of how poverty, addictions, homeless­ness and trauma compound for folks, especially when they lack the necessary supports and resources to heal.

      Will the minister commit today to investing in harm reduction strategies across our–[interjection]

Madam Speaker: Order.

Mrs. Smith: –province, including safe con­sump­tion sites, mobile support clinics and long-term treatment centres and beds here in Manitoba?

Ms. Gordon: Madam Speaker, a minister of Mental Health, Wellness and Recovery was appointed on January 5th of 2021. That ap­point­ment was made by this gov­ern­ment, and this gov­ern­ment continuously is evaluating and imple­men­ting cost-effective, safe, evidence-based harm reduction and addictions treat­ment programs and services. And we will continue to analyze out­comes and risk associated with harm re­duction initiatives to help inform public policy going forward.

Canada-Manitoba Child-Care Agreement
Timeline for Release of Report

Ms. Danielle Adams (Thompson): It's been almost four months and nobody has seen the Canada-Manitoba child-care agree­ment that was signed. And, while BC, Nova Scotia, Saskatchewan, Yukon and PEI have all posted their agree­ments publicly, the minister is spending her time blaming the federal gov­ern­ment for the delay in posting Manitoba's.

      Well, Madam Speaker, Minister Gould said the Province can actually post it whenever they want to.

      So I ask the minister, when will she release the Canada-Manitoba child-care agree­ment?

Hon. Rochelle Squires (Minister of Families): I do look forward to working with my new federal counterpart in Ottawa on this historic agree­ment that Manitoba reached with Ottawa last August.

      And I can assure the House and all Manitobans that the work in the Manitoba gov­ern­ment has con­tinued since we signed that agree­ment in August to not only raise the child-care subsidy threshold but also to extend the child-care benefit to many new operating agencies, to increase the number of spaces available and to lower the threshold for parent fees.

      That work is under way right now and we will have the timeline and the full action plan released imminently.

Madam Speaker: The honourable member for Thompson, on a supplementary question.

Ms. Adams: Their failure to produce these agree­ments should be troubling for anybody who wants to see a clear, trans­par­ent gov­ern­ment and reporting. That's what Susan Prentice, a long-time child-care activist in Manitoba, said about this gov­ern­ment's failure to release this report, and rightfully so, Madam Speaker.

      Child-care providers and families know this gov­ern­ment's poor track record on child care. Over five years, the funding has been frozen, doubling of nursing fees and pushing for more private spaces. That is why it's so im­por­tant Manitoba sees what this prov­incial PC gov­ern­ment has planned for child care.

      Will she post the agree­ment today?

Ms. Squires: I would like to remind members oppo­-site that our gov­ern­ment is investing $25 million more in child care than they ever did. I would also like to remind members opposite that Budget 2021 saw invest­ments for 541 new spaces to be created this year alone, some­thing that that member voted against.

      I can also assure the member that we are on track to esta­blish­ing all of the commit­ments laid out in the Manitoba-Canada agree­ment, including that mini­mum wage grid operating sup­ple­ment, the certi­fi­ca­tion require­ments, creating new spaces for–in the child-care sector, as well as reducing those parent fees. That is work that is ongoing within the Manitoba gov­ern­ment that will be completed on the timeline.

Madam Speaker: The hon­our­able member for Thompson, on a final sup­ple­mentary.

Ms. Adams: Well, it's easy to say that they're almost done completing all of the promises in there, because we haven't seen it. I've written the minister asking her to release the agree­ment to ensure account­ability and allow child-care providers to start planning.

      And what is her response, Madam Speaker? Nothing. Complete silence.

      I table the letter again for the minister. And while she takes her time creating affordable child care for  families, each and every day there are families struggling to find affordable spots and qualified ECEs are leaving the sector.

      Will the minister finally respond to my letter and release the Canada-Manitoba child-care agree­ment today?

Ms. Squires: Well, I'm very pleased to hear that the member opposite is admitting that our gov­ern­ment is focused on creating affordable, ac­ces­si­ble child-care spaces in the province of Manitoba. That is why we enhanced the budget every year since we took office.

      We have increased the budget for learning–early-learning and child-care centres. That is why, this year alone, we created invest­ments to create 541 new spaces. That is why we're continuing to work with our child-care sector to ensure that it is robust to help us in the post-pandemic recovery that we know is going to be very vital.

      So we're very pleased to continue to work with our–all of our partners in delivering early learning and child care through­out the entire province.

HIV/AIDS Medication
Free Access to PrEP

Mr. Dougald Lamont (St. Boniface): Today, December 1st, is World AIDS Day, and one of the most troubling habits of this PC gov­ern­ment is mak­ing big promises and holding out false hope, only for Manitobans to find that they've been deceived and they don't qualify for the help they need. For example, earlier this year, when the gov­ern­ment promised enhanced coverage for the thousands of people living with type 1 diabetes, only 50–five-zero–more people benefited.

      A similar issue is true with the an­nounce­ment of pre-exposure prophylaxis, or PrEP. Proven to reduce the contraction of HIV/AIDS, it still requires many Manitobans to pay hefty Pharma­care deductibles.

      Why is this gov­ern­ment still requiring anyone to pay thousands of dollars out of pocket for life-saving medi­cations? Will this gov­ern­ment make PrEP free to prevent HIV/AIDS today?

Hon. Heather Stefanson (Premier): We take this disease very seriously and are actively working with Public Health to improve pre­ven­tion and treatment of HIV and AIDS.

      And that's why, Madam Speaker, we added the coverage of PrEP to the prov­incial Pharma­care for­mulary, allocating $2.3 million over three years to support the dev­elop­ment and imple­men­ta­tion of an Indigenous-led STBBI testing and contact-tracing strategy.

      So those are the invest­ments we are making. We have been moving forward. I wish the member opposite would get on board with us. [interjection]

Madam Speaker: Order.

      The hon­our­able member for St. Boniface, on a sup­ple­mentary question.

Blood-Borne Disease Prevention
Harm Reduction and Needle Exchanges

Mr. Dougald Lamont (St. Boniface): Today, Manitoba Health and Seniors Care released their annual surveillance report showing the HIV data for 2020 in Manitoba. There are a number of con­cern­ing statistics because cases are up and testing is down. The No. 1 risk factor for new cases is unknown, but the second-most common risk factor is using intra­venous drugs, for men and women, and it's driving HIV and STI and blood-borne infections.

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      Everyone's life is touched by someone who struggles with substance use. We should still love that person enough to ensure they don't get sick or die because of that dependence. Oftentimes, a single clean needle will make the difference.

      Will this gov­ern­ment invest more in harm re­duction and needle exchanges to prevent the spread of blood-borne diseases across Manitoba?

Hon. Heather Stefanson (Premier): The member opposite will know that we've already moved in that direction. But beyond that, Madam Speaker, we've also extended coverage for HIV post-exposure treat­ment as well as enhanced coverage for HIV treatment for those ex­per­iencing financial or admin­is­tra­tive barriers.

      So, clearly, we recog­nize there's a problem. The Minister of Health has been working diligently with Public Health to ensure that we put the ap­pro­priate mechanisms in place to help those through these difficult times. That's exactly what is happening. I  want to thank her for doing her job very well for Manitobans.

Madam Speaker: The honourable member for Tyndall Park, on a final supplementary.

Menstrual Product Availability
Request for Free Access

Ms. Cindy Lamoureux (Tyndall Park): Having access to menstrual products should be a basic human right. Unfor­tunately, these products are not always ac­ces­si­ble for those who need them.

      We know from advocacy groups and individuals from across Manitoba that having access to these pro­ducts would improve peoples' physical and psycho­logical well-being. Madam Speaker, the City of Winnipeg has taken a tre­men­dous step forward in starting a pilot project for free menstrual products, and it's long overdue that this prov­incial gov­ern­ment take on some respon­si­bility.

      What is this new Premier going to do to ensure all Manitobans have access to menstrual products moving forward?

Hon. Cliff Cullen (Minister of Education): I thank the member for this question.

      I did address this, I think, yesterday in the House. Clearly, our government takes this issue very serious­ly. We're currently working with a number of my col­leagues on this front, and we had meetings ongoing. We're looking what other provinces are doing in this front. Some good news coming out of Ontario, where the private sector stepped in to help. That may be part of our solution here in Manitoba.

      We have asked our com­mit­tee that's dealing with poverty and edu­ca­tion to review this very im­por­tant issue. And we look forward for a report back from that com­mit­tee.

Manitoba's Livestock Producers
Herd Manage­ment Program

Mr. Rick Wowchuk (Swan River): This year's drought impacted Manitobans of all stripes, and few harder than Manitoba ranchers and ag producers.

      Feed and water challenges forced many livestock producers to reduce their herds. These losses have placed an ad­di­tional burden on these Manitobans head­­ing into another uncertain winter.

      Can the minister explain how the new AgriRecovery herd manage­ment program will assist these producers to stabilize their operations and return to pre-drought herd capacity?

Hon. Ralph Eichler (Minister of Agriculture and Resource Development): I thank the member for the question.

      This program will assist producers who want to replace breeding animals culled due to drought, help­ing return the inventory to pre-breeding females to the drought levels. The re­place­ment animals can be pur­chased or retained from producers' existing herds or flocks.

      I'd like to thank the Manitoba Beef Producers, Keystone Agri­cul­tural Producers and others for work­ing alongside us to develop a program for this third drought-resistant program.

      Contrary to the op­posi­tion, our gov­ern­ment is listening and a government that takes actions. And this is what we do on this side of the House: look after our farm families.

Chronic Wasting Disease in Deer Population
Request for Gov­ern­ment to Address

Mr. Diljeet Brar (Burrows): Last month, we learned that Manitoba had its first case of chronic wasting disease found in a single deer. This matter of course is im­por­tant–[interjection]

Madam Speaker: Order.

Mr. Brar: –to everyone who cares about wildlife and the environ­ment. The disease causes great illness and death in deer popu­la­tions.

      Can the minister tell us what is he doing to address this serious issue?

Hon. Ralph Eichler (Minister of Agriculture and Resource Development): I thank the member for finally getting out of his seat and addressing some real im­por­tant issues that we're facing each and every day in the agri­cul­tural sector.

      In regards to the CWD, we've been working with the Habitat for Humanity, we've been working with the Wildlife Federation, been working with our own de­part­ment and in com­mu­nity to make sure this disease does not spread.

      It came from Saskatchewan, Madam Speaker; was announced in October. We know that this disease can spread very quickly. One that we're working on, and right now we're doing our job and making sure testing has been done within that area to make sure the spread of CWD does not go any farther.

Madam Speaker: The honourable member for Burrows, on a supplementary question.

Agri­cul­tural Crown Land Leasing
Request to Reconsider Program

Mr. Diljeet Brar (Burrows): This is a serious issue and one we're watching very closely.

      I would also like to address to the minister the concerns I have heard from beef producers over the last two years regarding Crown lands.

      No one is satisfied with the system the minister has esta­blished. The problem was made worse by lease rates increasing over 300 per cent and a historic drought.

      Will the minister reconsider the changes he made to the Crown land lease program?

Hon. Ralph Eichler (Minister of Agriculture and Resource Development): Three 'questmen'–three questions and finally, we get to talk about agri­cul­ture and what it really means for Manitobans and our farm families.

      The member talks about Crown land and how it needs to be modernized, and we did exactly that. And we talked with farmers and producers and others, including the Keystone Ag Producers, the beef pro­ducers, to ensure that all Manitobans had a fair rate–one that was there for them to be able to bank on, one for them to be able to make sure they could move forward, grow their herds and be there for the next gen­era­tion, not only to sustain what is happening with our beef producers in Manitoba, but to make us whole and be there for the next gen­era­tion and the next gen­era­tion and the next gen­era­tion to come, Mr. Speaker.

Madam Speaker: The time for oral questions has expired.

Petitions

Abortion Services

MLA Uzoma Asagwara (Union Station): Madam Speaker, I wish to present the following petition to the Legislative Assembly.

      To the Legis­lative Assembly of Manitoba, the background to this petition is as follows:

      (1) Manitoba women, girls, two-spirit, genderqueer, non-binary and trans persons deserve to be safe, supported–and supported when accessing abortion services.

      (2) Limited access to effective and safe abortion services contributes to detrimental out­comes and con­se­quences for those seeking an abortion, as an esti­mated 25 million unsafe abortions occur worldwide each year.

      (3) The prov­incial gov­ern­ment's reckless health-care cuts have created inequity within the health-care system whereby access to the abortion pill, Mifegymiso, and surgical abortions are less ac­ces­si­ble for northern and rural individuals than individuals in southern Manitoba, as they face travel barriers to access the handful of non-urban health-care pro­fes­sionals who are trained to provide medical abortions.

      (4) For over five years, and over the admin­is­tra­tion of three failed Health ministers, the prov­incial government operated under the pretense that reproductive health was not the respon­si­bility of the Min­is­try of Health and Seniors Care and shifted the respon­si­bility to a secretariat with no policy, program or financial author­ity within the health-care system.

      (5) For over four years, the prov­incial gov­ern­ment has refused to support bill 200, The Safe Access to Abortion Services Act, which will ensure the safety of Manitoba women, girls, two-spirit, genderqueer, non-binary and trans persons accessing abortion services and the staff who provide such services by esta­blish­ing buffer zones for anti-choice Manitobans around clinics.

      We petition the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba as follows:

      To urge the prov­incial gov­ern­ment to imme­diately ensure effective and safe access to abortion services for individuals regardless of where they reside in Manitoba and to ensure that buffer zones are imme­diately legis­lated.

      This has been signed by many Manitobans.

Madam Speaker: In accordance with our rule 132(6), when petitions are read they are deemed to be received by the House.

Health-Care Coverage

Mr. Jamie Moses (St. Vital): I wish to present the following petition to the Legislative Assembly.

      The background for this petition is as follows:

      (1) Health care is a basic human right and a fundamental part of responsible public health. Many people in Manitoba are not covered by provincial health care: migrant workers with work permits of less than one year, international students and those undocumented residents who have lost their status for a variety of reasons.

      (2) Racialized people and communities are disproportionately affected by the pandemic, mainly due to the social and economic conditions which leave them vulnerable while performing essential work in a variety of industries in Manitoba.

      (3) Without adequate health-care coverage, if they are ill, many of–uninsured will avoid seeking health care due to fear of being charged for the care, and some will fear possible detention or deportation if their immigration status is reported to the authorities.

      (4) According to the United Nations Human Rights Committee, denying essential health care to undocumented irregular migrants is a violation of their rights.

      (5) Jurisdictions across Canada and the world have adopted access-without-fear policies to prevent sharing personal health information or immigration status with immigration authorities and to give uninsured residents the confidence to access health care.

      (6) The pandemic has clearly identified the need for everyone in Manitoba to have access to health care to protect health and safety of all who live in the province.

      We petition the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba as follows:

      (1) To urge the provincial government to immediately provide comprehensive and free health-care coverage to all residents of Manitoba, regardless of immigration status, including refugee claimants, migrant workers, international students, dependant children of temporary residents and undocumented residents.

      (2) To urge the Minister of Health and Seniors Care to undertake a multilingual communication campaign to provide information on expanded coverage to all affected residents.

      (3) To urge the Minister of Health and Seniors Care to inform all health-care institutions and providers of expanded coverage for those without health insurance and the details on how necessary policy and protocol changes will be implemented.

      (4) To urge the Minister of Health and Seniors Care to create and enforce strict confidentiality policies and provide staff with training to protect the safety and–residents with precarious immigration status and ensure that they can access health care without jeopardizing their ability to remain in Canada.

      This petition has been signed by many, many Manitobans.

Louise Bridge

Mr. Jim Maloway (Elmwood): I wish to present the following petition to the Legis­lative Assembly.

      The back­ground of this petition is as follows:

      (1) Over 25,000 vehicles per day cross the Louise Bridge, which has served as a vital link for vehicular traffic between northeast Winnipeg and the downtown for the last 110 years.

      (2) The current structure will undoubtedly be declared unsafe in a few years as it has deteriorated extensively, becoming functionally obsolete, subject to more frequent unplanned repairs and cannot be widened to accommodate future traffic capacity.

      (3) As far back as 2008, the City of Winnipeg has studied where the new re­place­ment bridge should be situated.

      (4) After including the bridge re­place­ment in the City's five-year capital budget forecast in 2009, the new bridge became a short-term construction priority in the City's trans­por­tation master plan of 2011.

      (5) City capital and budget plans identified re­place­ment of the Louise Bridge on a site just east of the bridge and expropriated homes there on the south side of Nairn Avenue in anticipation of a 2015 start.

      (6) In 2014, the new City admin­is­tra­tion did not make use of available federal infrastructure funds.

      (7) The new Louise Bridge Com­mit­tee began its campaign to demand a new bridge and its surveys confirmed residents wanted a new bridge beside the current bridge, with the old bridge kept open for local traffic.

      (8) The NDP prov­incial gov­ern­ment signalled its firm commit­ment to partner with the City on replacing the Louise Bridge in its 2015 Throne Speech. Unfor­tunately, prov­incial infrastructure initiatives, such as the new Louise bridge, came to a halt with the election of the Progressive Conservative gov­ern­ment in 2016.

      (9) More recently, the City tethered the Louise Bridge replacement issue to its new trans­por­tation master plan and eastern corridor project. Its recom­men­dations have now identified the location of the new Louise bridge to be placed just to the west of the current bridge, not to the east as originally proposed. The City expropriation process has begun.

      (10) The new Premier has a duty to direct the prov­incial gov­ern­ment to provide financial assist­ance to the City so that it can complete this long overdue vital link to northeast Winnipeg and Transcona. The  upcoming prov­incial budget will provide the timely op­por­tun­ity to budget and announce prov­incial partici­pation in the building of the new Louise bridge.

      We petition the Legis­lative Assembly as follows:

      (1) To urge the new Premier to financially assist the City of Winnipeg on building this three-lane bridge in each direction to maintain this vital link between northeast Winnipeg, Transcona and the downtown;

      (2) To urge the prov­incial gov­ern­ment to recom­mend that the City of Winnipeg keep the old bridge fully open to traffic while the new bridge is under con­struction, and

      (3) To urge the prov­incial gov­ern­ment to consider the feasibility of keeping it open for active trans­por­tation in the future.

      And this petition has been signed by many, many Manitobans.

Prov­incial Road 224

Ms. Amanda Lathlin (The Pas-Kameesak): I wish to present the following petition to the Legis­lative Assembly.

      The back­ground to this petition is as follows:

      (1) Prov­incial Road No. 224 serves Peguis First Nation, Fisher River Cree Nation and surrounding com­mu­nities. The road is in need of sub­stan­tial repairs.

      (2) The road has been in poor con­di­tion for years and has numer­ous potholes, uneven driving surfaces and extremely narrow shoulders–very narrow.

      (3) Due to recent popu­la­tion growth in the area, there has been increased vehicle and pedestrian use of Prov­incial Road 224.

      (4) Without repair, Prov­incial Road 224 will continue to pose a hazard to the many Manitobans who use it on a regular basis.

      (5) Concerned Manitobans are requesting that Prov­incial Road 224 be assessed and repaired urgently to improve safety for its users.

      We must petition the Legis­lative Assembly of Manitoba as follows:

      To urge the Minister of Infra­structure to complete an assessment of Prov­incial Road 224 and implement the ap­pro­priate repairs using public funds as quickly as possible.

      Madam Speaker, this petition has been signed by many, many fine Manitobans.

      Ekosi. Thank you.

Road Closures

Mr. Matt Wiebe (Concordia): I wish to present the following petition to the Legis­lative Assembly.

      And the back­ground to this petition is as follows:

      (1)  Manitoba Infra­structure has under­taken the closure of all farm-access roads along the North Perimeter Highway, forcing rural residents to drive up to six miles out of their way to leave or return to their property.

      (2)  The prov­incial gov­ern­ment's own con­sul­ta­tions showed that closing the access of some of these roads, including Sturgeon Road, was an emerging concern to residents and busi­ness owners, yet the North Perimeter plan does nothing to address this issue.

      (3)  Residents and busi­ness owners were assured that their concerns about access closures, including safety issues cited by engineers, would be taken into account and that access at Sturgeon Road would be maintained. However, weeks later, the median was nonetheless torn up, leaving local residents and busi­nesses scrambling.

      (4)  Closing all access to the Perimeter puts more people in danger, as it emboldens speeders and forces farmers to take large equip­ment into heavy traffic, putting road users at risk.

      (5)  Local traffic, commuter traffic, school buses, emergency vehicles and com­mercial traffic, including 200 gravel trucks per day from the Lilyfield Quarry, will all be expected to merge and travel out of their way in order to cross the Perimeter, causing increased traffic and longer response times to emergencies.

      (6)  Small busi­nesses located along the Perimeter and Sturgeon Road are expecting to lose busi­ness, as customers will give up on finding a way into their premises.

      (7)  Residents, busi­ness owners and those who would–who use these roads have been left behind by the prov­incial gov­ern­ment's refusal to listen to their concerns that closures will only result in worsened safety and major inconveniences for users of the North Perimeter.

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      We petition the Legis­lative Assembly of Manitoba as follows:

      (1) To urge the Minister of Infra­structure to leave residents access to the Perimeter Highway at least every two miles along its length, especially at intersections such as Sturgeon Road, which are vital to local busi­nesses.

      (2)  To urge the Minister of Infra­structure to listen to the needs and the opinions of the local residents and busi­ness owners who took the time to complete the Perimeter safety survey while working with engineers and technicians to ensure their concerns are addressed.

      This petition, Madam Speaker, is signed by many Manitobans.

Madam Speaker: Are there any further petitions?

National Drug Plan

Hon. Jon Gerrard (River Heights): Madam Speaker, I wish to present the following petition to the Legislative Assembly.

      The background to this petition is as follows:

      Canada's public and private drug plans leave many patients with little or no coverage, resulting in one out of 10 patients not taking their prescribed medication because of affordability.

      It is estimated that Pharmacare would save Canadians between $4 billion and $11 billion per year.

      There have been repeated calls to include prescription drugs in Canada's universal health-care system, including:

            (a) National Forum on Health 1997 chair, Prime Minister Jean Chrétien;

            (b) Commission on the Future of Health Care in Canada 2002 chair, Roy Romanow;

      (c) several national organizations, includ­ing Canadian Nurses Association, Canadian Medical Association, Federation of Canadian Municipalities.

      We petition the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba as follows:

      (1) To urge the provincial government to encourage the federal government to amend the Canada Health Act by adding prescription medicines prescribed by a licensed practitioner to the definition of covered services in accordance with an established formulary.

      (2) To urge the provincial government to develop, jointly with the federal government, a universal, single‑payer, evidence-based, sustainable public drug plan that contains: purchasing power to secure best available pricing; a list of essential medicines addressing priority health needs; and the ability to expand to a comprehensive permanent plan that would promote the health and well-being of all Canadians.

      Signed by Steven Erickson, Marlene Friesen, Janie [phonetic] Leduc and many, many other Manitobans.

      Thank you, merci, miigwech.

Madam Speaker: Are there any other petitions?

      If not, orders of the day, gov­ern­ment busi­ness.

ORDERS OF THE DAY

GOVERNMENT busi­ness

Hon. Kelvin Goertzen (Government House Leader): I have a motion to bring forward to the House before we go back to debate on the Throne Speech.

Government Motion

Hon. Kelvin Goertzen (Government House Leader): I move, seconded by the Minister of Agricul­ture, that the Sessional Order passed on October 7th, 2020 and amended on November 19th–[interjection]

Madam Speaker: Order.

Mr. Goertzen: –and amended on November 19th, 2020, December 3rd, 2020 and May 18th, 2021, be further amended in the first paragraph by replacing December 2nd, 2021 with March 10th, 2022.

Madam Speaker: It has been moved by the hon­our­able Gov­ern­ment House Leader, seconded by the Minister of Agri­cul­ture, that the Sessional Order passed on October 7th, 2020 and amended on November 19, 2020, December 3rd, 2020 and May 18, 2021, be further amended in the first paragraph by replacing December 2nd, 2021 with March 10th, 2022.

Mr. Goertzen: Yes, just very quickly, Madam Speaker, to speak to the motion. This obviously is to extend the ability to have virtual sittings both in com­mit­tee and in the House only until March 10th. It is all of our hope that in spring we'll be able to come to­gether fully in the Legislature as MLAs. That would be the first time in almost two years that that has happened. And so that is our goal, but we also don't know, of course, what the different twists and turns are in the pandemic. We want to ensure that inter­sessionally we have the ability to do com­mit­tees virtually and then we can re-examine this in March.

      I ap­pre­ciate the working ex­per­ience that we've had with the Leader of the Official Op­posi­tion (Mr. Kinew), the member for St. Johns (Ms. Fontaine) and the Leader of the Liberal caucus, the member for River Heights. It's been difficult and trying times, in terms of trying to make sure the Legislature continues to operate and their co‑operation has been imperative in that, Madam Speaker.

Madam Speaker: Is there any further comment from any of the other House leaders?

      If not–oh. The hon­our­able member for River Heights.

Hon. Jon Gerrard (River Heights): Just to indicate that this has been discussed by all House leaders and there's agree­ment, and the date of March 10th was arrived at to enable us, if necessary, to start in virtual format or hybrid format at the begin­ning of the session, but not to go very long before we have a firm decision, hopefully, that we can continue in full session, without having to go back to virtual session after that.

Madam Speaker: Is the House ready for the question?

Some Honourable Members: Question.

Madam Speaker: The question before the House is the gov­ern­ment motion brought forward by the hon­our­able Government House Leader (Mr. Goertzen).

      Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion? Agreed? [Agreed]

      I declare the motion carried.

Mr. Goertzen: I thank the members of the House for that co‑operation.

      Could you please resume debate on the Throne Speech?

Throne Speech


(Sixth Day of Debate)

Madam Speaker: It has been announced that the House will resume debate on the motion of the honour­able member for Lagimodière (Mr. Smith) and the amend­ment and sub­amend­ment thereto, standing in the name of the hon­our­able member for Radisson, who has 18 minutes remaining.

Mr. James Teitsma (Radisson): Thank you, Madam Speaker, for the op­por­tun­ity to respond–or to continue a response, rather, from yesterday, where I began to speak to the speech for the throne.

      I want to take a moment to just note that we're in the middle of the 16 days of activism against gender-based violence. And we observe that every year from November 25th, which is the Inter­national Day for the Elimination of Violence against Women until December the 10th, which is world Human Rights Day.

      It's an op­por­tun­ity to come together, to call out, to speak up, to renew our commit­ments to end gender-based violence and also to end misogyny. I want to take a moment to directly address an issue that's been festering in this House ever since the Throne Speech was delivered. I believe it ranks of misogyny and needs to be called out, and needs to stop.

      So, Wikipedia defines misogyny as a form of sexism used to keep women at a lower social status than men. Day after day after day, the Leader of the Op­posi­tion refuses to do this one simple thing: call the Premier (Mrs. Stefanson) of the province the Premier.

      Now, with the previous two premiers that the Leader of the Op­posi­tion served with, he had no trouble calling them Premier. But now that it's a woman holding this highest elected office in our province, he seems to not be able to bring himself to call her the Premier.

Mr. Doyle Piwniuk, Deputy Speaker, in the Chair

      He's referred to her as the member for Tuxedo; he's called her the leader of the PC 'partery'; he's called her the former Health minister–[interjection]

Mr. Deputy Speaker: Order.

Mr. Teitsma: –but he has not called her the Premier.

      Out of all the members in this House, the Leader of the Op­posi­tion, I think, should be taking special care not to continue travelling down the rotten rut of misogyny that stained his earlier years in his life. Out of all the caucuses in this House, you would think that the supposedly woke NDP would call out misogyny when they see it, but he hasn't, and they don't.

      So it falls to me to call it out. I already did so–[interjection]

Point of Order

Mr. Deputy Speaker: The hon­our­able Op­posi­tion House Leader, on a point of order.

Ms. Nahanni Fontaine (Official Opposition House Leader): On a point of order in respect of the member: what the member for Radisson is attempting to put on the floor this afternoon, which is wholly erroneous. In fact, the Leader of the Op­posi­tion did call the member for Tuxedo today the Premier.

      To assert that, somehow, because the Leader of the Op­posi­tion calls the member for Tuxedo the former Health minister, which she was; the PC leader, which she is. At this point though, Deputy Speaker, I would put on the record that there is a court case before Manitoba courts right now in respect of whether or not she is indeed the leader.

      But it is–for the member for Radisson to stand up in this House and somehow–because the Leader of the Op­posi­tion is pointing out the various titles that the Premier has, which we all have; I'm the House leader, I'm the member for St. Johns, I'm the critic for Justice, the 'spokespersos' for MMIWG2S–to try and attach that to somehow that the Leader of the Op­posi­tion is somehow misogynistic towards the Premier is wholly unacceptable.

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      And the member for Radisson should apologize right here and now today for putting false words on the record and attempting to disabuse the Leader of the Op­posi­tion's titles for the–the various titles that the Premier holds currently.

      It's erroneous, it's wrong, it's misleading of the facts and he knows it.

Hon. Kelvin Goertzen (Government House Leader): Mr. Deputy Speaker, the reality is that all of us hold certain titles within this Legislature that are specific to our roles here in this House, and I think on a more regular basis, we all try to distinguish each other by that title. It is sort of the hon­our­able thing to do.

      I don't know what strategic reason or other reason that the Leader of the Official Op­posi­tion (Mr. Kinew) doesn't seem to want to identify the Premier (Mrs. Stefanson) as the Premier, but quite apart from whatever the rules are or the ruling that you're going to provide, I think it is respectful to refer to somebody by the position that they have earned. I try to refer to the member for St. Johns (Ms. Fontaine) as either the Official Op­posi­tion House Leader (Ms. Fontaine) or the member for St. Johns. That is the title that she holds within this House.

      She might have a lot of other roles and titles beyond this House, but I try to respect her by referring her in that way, as I do other members. I probably don't do it perfectly, but I probably–I also don't do it purposely not to refer to them as the title as the leader of the official 'opposeetion'–op­posi­tion seems to be doing with the Premier.

      So I wold just ask, as a member to a member, to be respectful and to refer to the Premier by the title that she has rightfully earned, Mr. Deputy Speaker.

Mr. Deputy Speaker: On that point of order: It was a–more of a debate on the–but the thing is it's not a breach of the rules that we're conducting here, but I think the–in this House, we should respect each other here, and we should respect each other's titles and what their–their con­stit­uency names. So if we can have respect here in this Chamber, would be much–greatly ap­pre­ciated, and it would make it a lot easier when we get going towards debates, here.

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Mr. Deputy Speaker: So, the hon­our­able member for Radisson (Mr. Teitsma).

Mr. Teitsma: I thank you for your wise ruling in that matter and I'll attempt to remain focused here.

      I think I was–where I left off, I had mentioned that–tangentially in my brief remarks yesterday, I did mention this issue, and yet no change, really, was seen today.

      The Premier, in fact, called it out during question period. You won't find that necessarily in the Hansard, but, you know, perhaps in the heckling you might have heard it where she asked him: Just call me the Premier, already.

      And–you know, I think the member for St. Johns, to be fair–I believe that the Leader of the Op­posi­tion did finally, on one occasion, call her the Premier. Perhaps it was a slip of the tongue, or perhaps it was a shift. I hope it's a shift. [interjection]

Mr. Deputy Speaker: Order.

Mr. Teitsma: In my opinion, this pattern of behaviour–the pattern of behaviour that we've seen before us for the last–how many days now, two weeks here in the session–has been con­sistent. It has been persistent. And I ap­pre­ciate that it might be changing. I sure hope it does, because the anchor of the days that we observe at this time, the 16 days of activism against gender based violent, the anchor of those days is actually even far more tragic than the matters I'm bringing forward today.

      It's the–this year will mark the 32nd anniversary of the tragic and brutal murder of 14 young women at l'École polytechnique de Montréal in 1989. That's why we call December 6th Canada's National Day of Remembrance and Action on Violence against Women. This day represents an op­por­tun­ity for Canadians to reflect on the reality of violence against girls and women in our society.

      This day we also especially remember those who have died as a result of gender-based violence. It's a day that we resolve to do some­thing about it. That hashtag, do something, was intro­duced a few years ago, and I think it's a fitting one. And I think it's im­por­tant to remember that it's not about what you would do, but it's about what you should do, because when reflecting on that tragic day, now over 30 years ago, I think we would all feel–have feelings of despair, agony and helplessness.

      I know that I, myself, when I watched the brief but powerful scene from the movie Polytechnique, when the killer enters the classroom of about 60 engineering students, he's armed with a rifle. He then separates the nine female students from the about 50 men that were there and orders the men to leave; and every single man leaves, one by one. They each let the door close silently after them. On–a short while later, the killer opens fire on the female students, killing six and wounding the other three. This is a raw scene in the movie. It's profoundly powerful and horrible, and no matter how many times I watch it I–continues to impact me profoundly.

      And as so many others have asked, I find myself asking, you know, what would I have done if I was in that classroom? The truth is I don't know and I don't think any of us do know. But that's why I would say that the question that you should be asking yourself in this time is not how what you would do, but what you should do.

      What should I do, and may God graciously prevent it, if I find myself in such a horrible circum­stance? What should I do if I'm faced with tyranny and oppression? What should I do if I see misogyny being acted out? What should I do if I see brutality and this kind of unspeakable evil? What should I do to combat violence against girls and women in our society? What should I do to combat misogyny?

      Will I stand in solidarity with the targets of violence? Will I give of myself, even risk my own life, to defend the rights and freedoms of others? Will I resist oppression and tyranny with all my will and my strength, or will I just let the door close silently, doing nothing and saying nothing?

      Freedoms are not free. They are bought at–with a price, so this day and these weeks should be a day of remembrance but also a day of action, and it should be a day of resolve.

      Now, I have resolved many times before and I resolve again to do what I can to stop violence and misogyny against girls and women, and I encourage all colleagues on all sides of this House to do the same.

      I've resolved before and I resolve now again to defend the rights and freedoms of all Canadians, and I encourage all my colleagues on all sides of this House to do the same.

      I have resolved many times before and I now resolve again not to be caught off guard, but instead to stand on guard, and, again, I ask all my colleagues on all sides of this House to do the same. And it's in that spirit that I urge the Leader of the Op­posi­tion to stop his disrespectful and hurtful and misogynistic practice of refusing to refer to the Premier (Mrs. Stefanson) as the Premier.

      And I urge the members of the op­posi­tion that if you haven't already done so–and I respect many of you well enough to think that you may have, indeed, spoken up in your caucus–you may have, indeed, called him to account or advised him to stop and you've been ignored like so many complainants have been over the years.

      And also on that note, I want to con­gratu­late our new Premier. She has become the first female First Minister, the first female Premier in the history of our 'provice'–province. In fact, she's currently the only prov­incial premier that is a woman, which is not some­thing I thought would be happening con­sid­ering how many female premiers we had just a few short years ago. Our Premier has given us so many reasons to be proud of her, and I am sure that she will continue to do so.

      I also want to, again, say thank you to the member for Tyndall Park (Ms. Lamoureux). I think she under­stands well her role as a repre­sen­tative of her con­stit­uents and as a parti­ci­pant in this Legislature, and as a member of the op­posi­tion tasked with holding gov­ern­ment to account, because when the member for Tyndall Park began her response to the Speech from the Throne, unlike the Leader of the Op­posi­tion and unlike so many of the members opposite, she started off by acknowl­edging that the member for Tuxedo, the Leader of the PC Party, is you know, the Premier. Indeed, she has taken this seat of honour in this Chamber, she has taken her oaths of office, she has moved into room 204; she is the Premier.

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      The member for Tyndall Park was inspired by this Premier's accom­plish­ments and she was happy to acknowl­edge that this woman has attained what no other woman in Manitoba has ever done. She has become the Premier.

      So I hope, in the remaining time that we have before us in this brief sitting, before we rise for our Christmas break, that the front bench of the NDP caucus will also, routinely, and regularly and with purpose, acknowl­edge that the member for Tuxedo is, in fact, the Premier–because that's what respecting women looks like and I don't think that they intend to disrespect women.

      Now, out of all the Throne Speeches I've heard in my years, this is the one that's most connected to me, personally, and I don't think that's coincidence. I'm very grateful for all the highlights that I see in the Throne Speech, and I think of how well connected they are to everyday Manitobans. I think of the dozens of nursing students that I've gotten the chance to speak to in the past months and years–my own daughter is one of those nursing students–and I look forward to seeing better recruitment and retention policies put in place for them and more op­por­tun­ities for them to help address the nursing shortage.

      My mom is, you know, living on her own. My dad passed a few years go, and here we have a renewed seniors strategy to help people like her stay safe in their own homes, close to their families and support systems for as long as they choose. Those are the kinds of highlights that we see in the Throne Speech.

      I'm sorry I had to take so much of my time to address the conduct of the members opposite. That's not really what I like to talk about, but it did need to be done and I've resolved to be someone who will do that sort of thing, even if it is unpleasant and even if it is get me–getting me, you know, catcalls and heckles from the members opposite.

      So with those few remarks, then, I will cede the floor and give the op­por­tun­ity to remaining members opposite, and also members of my own caucus to be able to speak in response to the speech for the throne.

      Thank you.

Ms. Lisa Naylor (Wolseley): I want to begin by congratulating the new Premier (Mrs. Stefanson) of Manitoba.

      These very walls and all of our governance processes were built by men for men. Given the systemic sexism present in all our colonial gov­ern­ments, it is a sig­ni­fi­cant achieve­ment for any woman or non-binary person to be elected to the Legislature, and, certainly, a meaningful historical moment when a woman is chosen to lead our province. The hon­our­able First Minister does have a right to be proud of this achieve­ment.

      I have high ex­pect­a­tions of leaders, and 'ekspecially' women in leadership. Personal power for just a few women is not enough. One measure of a leader is their ability and commit­ment to bring a gendered lens, an anti-oppression lens, to leadership. For me, the measure of the leadership of the first premier–woman premier of Manitoba will be based on her ability to put the needs of women and non-binary people first.

      My measure of the Premier will be on her ability to look at the problems our province faces through the lens of a single mother, the young, queer, homeless person, the mid-life woman juggling career, respon­sibility for aging parents and her own children's needs, or through the lens of someone who has suffered an in­crease in intimate partner violence during the pandemic.

      My measure of the Premier will be on her ability to see the Province's problems and address pandemic response–pandemic recovery through the lens of nurses, health-care aides, edu­ca­tion assist­ants, early child­hood educators and teachers who are still often primarily women. It will be on her ability to em­pa­thize with the needs of a 13-year-old who misses school because their family can't afford menstrual pads.

      Will this Premier be a leader that can understand and deconstruct all forms of exclusion and marginalization?

      Will this Premier support members of this House who openly name experiences of racism or gender op­pression in this building? Will she allow for an open and honest con­ver­sa­tion about systemic racism, instead of denying its very existence, as Brian Pallister did?

      Can she recog­nize what the Justice Minister will not–that it is completely ap­pro­priate to name and describe racism ex­per­ienced by members of the Legislature and that one can do so while still holding respect and ap­pre­cia­tion for the efforts of civil ser­vants to maintain safety and security for all who enter this work­place?

      Systemic racism is described as systemic because it's built into the very in­sti­tution in which it is present, from the ground up. And surely even this Justice Minister understands by now that racism has been part of policing and the criminal justice system since their inception. A gov­ern­ment that wants to rebrand itself as a listening gov­ern­ment is not off to a good start when a Cabinet minister stands in this House and argues with Black and Indigenous people about their experiences of racism.

      A land acknowl­edgement is a very meaningful and very im­por­tant first step to recon­ciliation, but actively working to dismantle racism inside and out­side of this House must also be priorities. What kind of leader the new First Minister will be is yet to be seen. But for now, we know that the Throne Speech did nothing to offer us some­thing new.

      We're in the fourth wave of the pandemic and while there were months to prepare, we find ourselves in the same place: limited ICU capacities, patients being transported across the province to make space in health-care facilities, massive surgical backlogs and long-term-care homes suffering deadly outbreaks.

      In my con­stit­uency, multiple people are waiting for life-altering surgeries. A 12-year-old has been told it could be three years before she can see a pediatric ophthalmologist. Another child waits for brain surgery to treat his epilepsy because the gov­ern­ment refuses to purchase the ROSA machine that was promised four years ago through a massive private donation.

      Manitobans expect and deserve a gov­ern­ment that will fix problems instead of making them worse. Manitobans deserve a gov­ern­ment that will work to protect them from public health emergencies like COVID‑19 and provide them with meaningful supports while we navigate this challenging time together.

      The Pallister PCs did a lot of damage to this province, from health care to edu­ca­tion to the rising cost of living. The Throne Speech was the First Minister's chance to show us she's different, but I'm not sure anything has changed. Over 80 per cent of the commit­ments in the Premier's (Mrs. Stefanson) Throne Speech appear to be repeats from the Pallister admin­is­tra­tion. Nothing has changed at the decision-making table. It's the same people around the table when Brian Pallister was in office.

      The Premier's Throne Speech offers nothing new to Manitobans who are waiting for answers on how we will emerge and recover from the pandemic and repair the damage done by Brian Pallister. I expected that the Throne Speech would tell us how the First Minister is going to listen to nurses, get people surgeries, stop outbreaks in schools and long-term-care homes, address the addictions and housing crisis, stop gov­ern­ment inter­ference at the bargaining table and make life more affordable for all Manitobans.

      Manitobans are frustrated and disappointed. Many families are in a constant state of crisis. Manitobans have been waiting for years for this gov­ern­ment to take real action on issues that matter to them. This is why it's so im­por­tant that the Premier call an in­de­pen­dent inquiry into the PC gov­ern­ment's pandemic response to get recom­men­dations to help build our health-care-system capacity and make positive, lasting changes to improve the lives of Manitobans.

      Whether it's the climate crisis or another con­tagious virus, we have to be better prepared for the next emergency. The NDP caucus is ready to get to work. We're ready to take an honest look at Manitobans' pandemic response and commit to imple­men­ting the recom­men­dations from that inquiry so we can build a better future for all of us.

      We're in the fourth wave of the COVID‑19 pandemic and the new Premier, just like Brian Pallister, is not taking any meaningful action to address the rising numbers across the province in ICUs. When this Premier was the Health Minister, she failed to show up in a meaningful way to provide answers and solutions to Manitoba. As the Health Minister, this Premier committed $50 million to reduce the backlog in surgical and diag­nos­tic tests. This team was bragging about it today, but to date, they have only spent about 5 per cent of that amount.

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      Madam Speaker, this is shameful–sorry, Mr. Acting Deputy Speaker, this is shameful. That wait-list has gone from 110,000 to 136,000, a 24 per cent increase in five months. And the Throne Speech offered them nothing–no urgency, no imme­diate action to get these people the care they need.

      Let's not forget that this Premier stood by and clapped very hard for Brian Pallister as he fired hundreds of nurses, cut ICU beds, closed emergency rooms and urgent care centres, all right before the pandemic. The PC gov­ern­ment set Manitoba's health-care system up for failure, especially as the pandemic hit, and they still don't seem to have a real plan for how to fix our health-care system and ensure that all Manitobans have access to quality, reliable health care close to home where they need it.

      And then, when she was minister of Health, this Premier cut funding for acute care services by $13 million. And while ER wait times have reached a seven-year high, earlier this month the Premier said, in a media scrum, that there were pretty good results from that consolidation and she claimed to have reduced wait times. Pretty good results?

      The Premier is choosing to ignore the crisis in our health-care system and gas-lighting Manitobans at the same time. Manitobans don't need a premier who claims to work behind the scenes; they need a premier who shows leadership, steps up and takes action when Manitobans need it most.

      In her Throne Speech, the Premier claimed that her gov­ern­ment puts long-term care under the micro­scope and acted, stabilizing the pandemic, and we know this simply is not true. Right now, seniors in Manitoba are being sent to homes hundreds of kilo­metres away from their families because of the PC gov­ern­ment. Right now, seniors in some long-term-care homes are battling COVID‑19 outbreaks, while some of these homes have seen staff reductions of 30 per cent.

      Under her gov­ern­ment, the addiction crisis has continued to es­cal­ate and they have continued to refuse to support harm reduction efforts such as a safe con­sump­tion site. In 2020, Manitoba reached new levels of overdose deaths, and now, in 2021, during her time as minister of Health, the now-Premier (Mrs. Stefanson), Manitoba will meet or exceed last year's deaths of nearly 400 people. Yet, just like in her time as minister, she was silent on any commit­ments to address the addictions crisis our province is facing right now.

      Mr. Acting Deputy Speaker, the PC gov­ern­ment has a long history of undermining public edu­ca­tion, both primary and post-secondary. In fact, this Premier stated her term as–started her term as Premier with a strike at the Uni­ver­sity of Manitoba. This was caused by Brian Pallister's gov­ern­ment inter­ference but she could have stepped in to stop it. The member for Tuxedo is the leader now and the ongoing gov­ern­ment inter­ference, which has led to the strike impacting thousands of Manitoba's students, is completely on her.

      The Stefanson gov­ern­ment claims that they will train new nurses holds no weight when their inter­ference in the faculty's collective bargaining process is preventing students from graduating on time. Manitobans deserve post-secondary in­sti­tutions that have reliable, adequate funding, pay their faculty fair wages and provide op­por­tun­ities for research and writing. We know that a fair funding formula means better op­por­tun­ities for students and is an invest­ment in Manitoba's ongoing dev­elop­ment and growth.

      This gov­ern­ment austerity will harm our pro­vince's long-term social and economic dev­elop­ment. The First Minister must commit to investing in post-secondary edu­ca­tion in Manitoba and put a stop to the inter­ference in the bargaining process and stop hiking tuition so that students can complete their edu­ca­tion and we can retain excellent faculties and students here in our province.

      We know the gov­ern­ment also inter­fered with K‑to‑12 edu­ca­tion with Bill 64, causing outrages across Manitoba earlier this year. It was a terrible piece of legis­lation that did nothing but cut funding and centralize power at the Cabinet table, while making things more challenging for vul­ner­able students in our com­mu­nities and for the teachers who educate and care for them.

      The new Premier was the seconder on this bill and proudly supported this piece of terrible legis­lation, right up until it inter­fered with her run for premier. After immense public pressure from Manitobans and hard work from the NDP caucus, Bill 64 was thrown out for now.

      Cutting school funding isn't a new Conservative agenda. It's clear that the Premier has not learned from the mistakes made during her time in Cabinet with the Pallister Conservatives. And now her austerity bud­gets have led to school divisions forecasting budget cuts amounting to millions of dollars.

      Mr. Speaker, last summer, our beautiful blue prairie sky was largely hidden by the dull grey haze of forest fire smoke. Forest fires affect all Manitobans. Those near the fires live in constant fear of losing their homes and being forced to evacuate. For many this summer, that fear became a reality.

      Manitobans in urban areas were also affected. Fires restrict all Manitobans' ability to be out in nature and it affects the economy of our province as well as the mental and physical health of all its citizens.

      In addition to fires burning out of control in all corners of the province this summer, Manitobans ex­per­ienced the worst drought in decades. As we ex­perience more extreme swings in temperature and a dramatic reduction in precipitation, we will continue to ex­per­ience drought con­di­tions and an increase in wildfires.

      We've all seen the death and destruction caused by climate change in BC but, make no mistake, climate change devastation is coming for us, too.

      Climate change is happening at a faster rate than scientists originally predicted, partially because action on addressing climate change and pivoting away from fossil fuel to cleaner alternatives such as hydro power has been slow.

      Manitoba's PC gov­ern­ment has proven it is not up to the task. During the past five years, GHG emissions have continued to rise with no meaningful reduction targets or efforts made by this government.

      The First Minister's Throne Speech failed to provide any sub­stan­tial targets or initiatives to address climate change and to prevent devastating weather events that impact producers, the environ­ment, our health and our economy. The Throne Speech signalled that the Stefanson gov­ern­ment is choosing to continue inaction in the face of a terrible climate crisis that will eventually impact all Manitobans.

      As deputy premier, this Premier (Mrs. Stefanson) sat silent when environ­mental organi­zations had their funding cut and there were no new initiatives provided by her government. Not only was funding cut for not–non-profits, but the Con­servation and Climate Department has 58 fewer full-time positions than they did five years ago. Parks and Resource Pro­tec­tion has at least 22 fewer full-time positions in that same time frame. There remain many vacancies.

      Year after year, this government is cutting posi­tions, leaving fewer and fewer people whose role it is to protect the environ­ment. I have heard no new commit­ment from the Premier to change that channel. If she wants to show different leadership on climate change than her mentor, Brian Pallister, the honourable First Minister will invest in staffing and in action on climate and environ­mental issues.

      Manitobans also deserve real action and invest­ments on the North End wastewater treatment plant to save Lake Winnipeg and all our Manitoba lakes and rivers for future generations. An NDP government would set meaningful targets for reducing carbon and other GHG emissions and would get the deal made with the City of Winnipeg to complete the upgrades without jeopardizing jobs. We could make Manitoba a leader on slowing climate change and mitigating harms.

      I am also extremely concerned that the Premier made no mention of Manitoba Hydro in her Throne Speech. Manitoba Hydro has a very large role to play in addressing climate change, creating clean jobs, advancing recon­ciliation and keeping life affordable for Manitobans. Yet, the Premier made no mention of a plan to use the clean advantage of hydro to fight climate change or build our economy.

      Mr. Speaker, Manitobans are struggling to make ends meet, as the cost of living has kept up–kept going up during her gov­ern­ment's time. This Speech from the Throne made no commit­ment to implement a living wage or paid sick days for Manitobans to help them out of poverty and keep them safer.

      All across Manitoba, folks are struggling, and Wolseley is no different. Many residents in my con­stit­uency are in des­per­ate need of housing and ad­di­tional services for mental health or addictions.

      Last summer, temporary shelters sprung up all along the riverbanks in the usual places, but also newly in Vimy Ridge park and Agnes Street park, parks that are next to homes and child-care centres and elementary schools.

      City and com­mu­nity organi­zations try to check on folks and ensure their well-being, but it is becoming harder and harder for our com­mu­nity partners to keep up with the need. Folks are living in parking lots, bus shelters, under the steps of a local church and in a corner of the Gordon Bell school grounds.

      Church members clean up needles on their pro­perty. Human excrement is routinely found in our parks. These are spaces where children play and where families should be able to spend time together outdoors.

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      Mr. Speaker, no one wants to live in a park or a bus shelter. Folks camp and use parks as toilets because they have nowhere else to sleep or meet their hygiene needs. These unhoused residents of my con­stit­uency face profound challenges with respect to their health, security and well-being.

      The growing number and size of makeshift shelters in our city is a symptom of much deeper policy problems on housing, poverty, mental health and addictions. This gov­ern­ment has cut social housing, and the wait-list for affordable housing is massive.

      This gov­ern­ment cannot continue to let tent com­mu­nities and bus shelters be their long-term solution to our housing crisis. Camp con­di­tions fall far below inter­national human rights standards and these resi­dents are subject to harassment, violence and dis­crimination. Additionally, these camps are in­creasing­ly unsafe as the weather gets colder.

      In her Throne Speech, the Premier promised to intro­duce a homelessness strategy this winter. The Pallister gov­ern­ment made the same promise in 2019 with no tangible actions to follow it up. This gov­ern­ment has had many winters to intro­duce such a strat­egy but, so far, things have only gotten worse. And frankly, it's a bit late in the season to begin thinking about this issue.

      Let's not forget that when the Premier was minister of Families, child poverty got worse, ad­dictions continued to increase, and her gov­ern­ment cut and sold off social and affordable housing units. When it comes to social housing, this Premier has two instincts: cut and priva­tize.

      As deputy premier, she watched homelessness rise as her gov­ern­ment cut hundreds of social housing units, 1,700 units between 2016 and 2020. Her PC gov­ern­ment cut the maintenance budget for exist­ing units by almost 75 per cent from where it was under the NDP. They've sold off or transferred hundreds of social housing units to private companies who want to make a profit, not help struggling Manitobans.

      Manitobans want real action from this gov­ern­ment to address the growing issues of poverty and homelessness across our province, not the same empty promises given to them by Brian Pallister. We need this gov­ern­ment to step forward with an imme­diate increase in shelter beds and in long-term housing with a focus on housing first. This model allows people to have a roof over their head, so they can begin to work on their other personal goals, such as reducing substance abuse or finding em­ploy­ment.

      We also need this gov­ern­ment to open supervised con­sump­tion sites as needed across the province.

      Mr. Speaker, for all these reasons, and because I care deeply for Manitobans, I will be voting against this Throne Speech.

Mr. Deputy Speaker: The hon­our­able minister of Indigenous relations and northern relations.

Hon. Alan Lagimodiere (Minister of Indigenous Reconciliation and Northern Relations): Mr. Deputy Speaker, I'm honoured to rise before you in the House today to speak to our gov­ern­ment's Throne Speech, a path to progressing together.

      I would like to begin by taking a moment to recog­nize Her Honour, our Lieutenant Governor, for her years of service. I understand this may be the last Throne Speech Her Honour will be presenting to the House. Thank you for all your years of service to Manitoba, and I wish you all the best in wherever life takes you next.

      I would also like to thank the member for Steinbach (Mr. Goertzen) for his term as the 23rd Premier of Manitoba. In his short time in the position, the member for Steinbach had the op­por­tun­ity to make his mark on Manitoba by serving with honour and grace.

      I would also be remiss in not once again thanking the member for his leadership and acknowl­edge, while serving as Premier, the Winnipeg Blue Bombers maintained a winning streak for his entire term. This is a feat no other Premier has ever accom­plished. Thank you.

      Mr. Deputy Speaker, last Tuesday, the 23rd of November, was a historic day not only because Manitoba welcomed its first female Premier (Mrs. Stefanson), which is a monumental occasion itself, but also marks a new begin­ning, a new per­spective and a commit­ment to progressing together as Manitobans for a brighter future. Under this new leadership, our gov­ern­ment will be listening, learning and working col­lab­o­ratively with all Manitobans.

      I would like to take an op­por­tun­ity to thank the Opaskwayak Cree Nation councillor Mike Bignell and Grand Chief Dumas for his sug­ges­tion and col­lab­o­ration in another historic first in Manitoba history. This was the first time a performance of a Cree honour song and drumming preceded the pre­sen­ta­tion of the Throne Speech. It was sincerely moving to hear the walls of this House resound with their ancestral music of Manitoba. I hope this will become a tradition for years to come and serves as a reminder that the House is a place for all Manitobans to have their voices heard.

      Thank you for starting us off in such a good way.

      Mr. Deputy Speaker, the path to progressing together high­lighted a number of priorities for our gov­ern­ment moving forward. Our gov­ern­ment is listen­ing to Manitobans and ensuring that the issues facing com­mu­nities and families are at the forefront of our direction moving forward, focusing on recon­ciliation, addressing the challenges of the COVID‑19 pandemic, bolstering our health-care system, social and economic recoveries, the creation of a seniors strategy, addressing the mental health crisis, a trans­par­ent and equitable edu­ca­tion system, increased supports for those ex­per­iencing homelessness and substance abuse disorders, and those ex­per­iencing the tragedies of family violence.

      Mr. Deputy Speaker, we acknowl­edge that we have a lot of work to do, and I am confident that under this new leadership and with this team, our gov­ern­ment will seize the op­por­tun­ity and take on our respon­si­bility to address these difficult challenges.

      In my time as Minister of Indigenous Reconciliation and Northern Relations I have had the op­por­tun­ity to listen and to learn from northern and First Nations com­mu­nities across the province. I've heard their concerns first-hand and learnt about the issues most affecting these com­mu­nities.

      I am happy to see this Throne Speech addressing many of these concerns as top priorities for our gov­ern­ment moving forward. I'm looking forward to continuing to work. The First Minister has already begun engaging with Indigenous leadership, organi­zations and com­mu­nities. This past few weeks the hon­our­able First Minister and I met with First Nations' leadership to ensure the door is open and there is a seat at the table and mutually beneficial discussions from day one.

      I would also like to acknowl­edge the work of my min­is­terial colleagues to respectfully engage with Indigenous leaders. To name a few, we have recently worked with the de­part­ments of: Families; Justice; Manitoba Infra­structure; Crowns; Health; Seniors and  Active Living; Central Services, Sports, Culture and Heritage; and Agri­cul­ture and Resource Dev­elopment.

      Mr. Deputy Speaker, to further meaningful dis­cussions every de­part­ment and every minister and every MLA is actively engaged in meaningful pro­gress towards recon­ciliation. I am looking forward to our gov­ern­ment's continued col­lab­o­rative work in the days, months and years to come. I am excited to think of the future, the op­por­tun­ities, the col­lab­o­ration, and all the good work that can be done together between our leaders.

An im­por­tant step forward on this path that has just been taken has been intro­ducing an amend­ment to The Path to Recon­ciliation Act that enables the calls to justice of the National Inquiry into Missing and Murdered Indigenous Women and Girls as a key com­ponent in our gov­ern­ment's strategy to advancing recon­ciliation.

All Manitobans have the right to safety and a life free from the fear of violence. This amend­ment will ensure that the voices of these victims, survivors and families shape the con­ver­sa­tion on recon­ciliation moving forward.

Though it may be difficult it is im­por­tant to recog­nize the mistakes of our gov­ern­ments past when speaking about relationships with First Nations, Inuit and Métis com­mu­nities and peoples. We need to hear the truth of the wrongs of the past and listen to those impacted on their effects today.

We, as a gov­ern­ment, need to do better.

This Throne Speech stresses the need to recog­nize the deep generational impacts of gov­ern­ment-imposed resi­den­tial schools and colonialism and re­affirms our commit­ment, ensuring the truth is spoken and supports the process of healing. As part of these supports, we have recently committed $2.5 million to help support survivors and com­mu­nities with the work needed to locate missing children who are the victims of the cruelties of the resi­den­tial school system. We  are currently in discussion with First Nation leaders, survivors, families, elders, and knowledge keepers who will deter­mine just how and where the monies should be allocated.

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Our gov­ern­ment recognizes the pain and inter­generational trauma is not going to be resolved over­night. As such, we are committed to ongoing dis­cussions with survivors, families, knowledge keepers and grandmothers and grandfathers to hear their truth and work 'corlabatirvly' on how we can walk together on the path to recon­ciliation.

      Mr. Deputy Speaker, 2020 and 2021 have been years of un­pre­cedented challenges across Manitoba. Manitobans have been tested with 'nuverous' COVID waves and remain resilient. However, we need to acknowl­edge the many challenges COVID‑19 has made each and every Manitoban grapple with. Manitobans have proven their commit­ment to a healthy, safe province, but there's still much work to be done to ensure the safety of all and to address the lasting economic and social impacts of the pandemic.

      Mr. Deputy Speaker, this Throne Speech recog­nizes that First Nations com­mu­nities have been dispropor­tion­ately impacted by the effects of the COVID‑19 pandemic. I commend the col­lab­o­rative work of the minister of health, seniors care and active living, past and present–and, of course, the fantastic work of the First Nations vaccine task force, the First Nations com­mu­nities in reaching a vac­cina­tion rate for Indigenous people on reserve of 87 per cent. This  is an achieve­ment to be commended. However, there is more to do to ensure health equity for all Manitobans.

      Mr. Deputy Speaker, a sincere thank you to all those front-line and behind-the-scenes workers that were involved in this im­por­tant work. This Throne Speech outlines strategies to expand the number of nurses trained. One small commit­ment on this im­por­tant issue is in Thompson alone, where 20 nurses will be trained with guaranteed jobs on suc­cess­ful graduation.

      Mr. Deputy Speaker, it is no secret that First Nations are concerned about the gaps that exist in infrastructure, health care, addictions, edu­ca­tion, justice, hunting rights, climate chains, equitable op­por­tun­ities and homelessness both on and off reserve.

      Moving forward, it is essential, as outlined in the Throne Speech, that we work as partners col­lab­o­ratively with all levels of gov­ern­ment, involv­ing the federal, prov­incial, munici­pal and First Nations gov­ern­ments in addressing the gaps that exist.

      Mr. Deputy Speaker, this Throne Speech also supports strategies to improve the lives of our most vul­ner­able. Our gov­ern­ment is committed to work­ing  with com­mu­nity partners to support our most vulnerable and those that typically fall through the cracks: single parents, homeless, Indigenous youth, 2SLGBTQQIA+, those with dis­abil­ities and our seniors. All Manitobans have a right to equal op­por­tun­ity.

      Our gov­ern­ment intro­duced a new ability support program to stream­line existing programs.

      The tragedies of last winter in the homeless popu­la­tion are unacceptable and more needs to be done. The dev­elop­ment of a winter homeless strategy will move to ensure those ex­per­iencing homelessness have the supports and resources they need.

      Mr. Deputy Speaker, thank you for the op­por­tun­ity to speak in the House today to speak on this monumental occasion. I know I not only speak for myself but all my colleagues in saying that I'm excited at the new direction our gov­ern­ment is taking­–one of en­gage­ment, with an open door, with a commit­ment to addressing the issues most pressing to Manitobans from youth to seniors, rural to urban and our most vul­ner­able.

      Mr. Deputy Speaker, I am honoured to be work­ing with such a motivated and talented team. Congratu­la­tions and good luck to our new First Minister. I recog­nize our gov­ern­ment has a lot of work to do, but I look forward to progressing together in the days, months and years to come towards a prosperous, vibrant, engaged and healthy Manitoba for all Manitobans.

      Thank you. Miigwech.

MLA Malaya Marcelino (Notre Dame): As the MLA for the con­stit­uency of Notre Dame, I humbly represent to the best of my ability over 22,000 people from the neighbourhoods of the West End, Brooklands, Weston and West Alexander, and on be­half of these com­mu­nities, I'm honoured to make this response to the Throne Speech.

      First, I would like to address some items of interest to Notre Dame com­mu­nity members that were briefly high­lighted in the Throne Speech.

      We heard that this gov­ern­ment has entered a his­toric agreement on child care with the federal gov­ern­ment. Women across the country have been wait­ing for a uni­ver­sal child care deal like this. It's been 50 years since the royal com­mis­sion on the status of women, when Canadian women were first–forcefully articulated the need and economic underpinning for uni­ver­sal child care.

      We know that, prior to this, fed­eral multi-year commit­ment of more than 800 million federal child-care dollars to our province, the PCs legally paved the way for further priva­tiza­tion of child  care, clearly outlined in the child-care bill that the PCs passed this past spring. And knowing this gov­ern­ment's deep aversion to a public welfare state, in op­posi­tion, we need to stay vigilant that these federal dollars will be spent on quality child care and not on other PC  priorities like tax cuts for the wealthy. Despite these federal dollars, we need to say vigilant to ensure that prov­incial child-care dollars will continue to flow  to children and child-care centres instead of PC priorities like tax cuts for the wealthy.

      In Notre Dame and in many com­mu­nities across the province, our child-care centres are in crisis right now, and can't wait until 2023 or whenever the federal agree­ment will begin. I have heard from numer­ous child-care providers in Notre Dame, who are sounding the alarm about the staffing shortages and the many negative effects this has had on provi­ding quality child care in our area and across our province. Many facilities have to close whenever a staff member falls ill because there are not enough substitutes available to cover for them. The main reason for this shortage of certified early child­hood educators, or ECEs, in Manitoba is that many ECEs earn little more than minimum wage. With these low-wage prospects, completing the required two-year certificate just doesn't make sense for most people.

      This summer, we received the sudden news that the Weston daycare would close down by the end of August, and the parents of 59 infants and children suddenly had to find new spots within weeks in a child-care system that is already stretched thin. I recently heard from Tracy Cosser, director at Can You Imagine Inc., which runs three daycare programs in Winnipeg, that her organi­zation is trying to open a new daycare program licensed for 50 spaces in the Weston School. The only thing standing in the way is the lack of staffing because it has been almost impossible to find qualified early child­hood educators to work in this new daycare. She has not been able to hire staff due to the staffing crisis, and this means that my com­mu­nity is without quality child care needed for parents to work and for young children to be nurtured and educated.

      The PC Throne Speech did not prioritize increasing the wages for early child­hood educators, even though this is the only way to retain and attract qualified workers to the child-care sector. Our com­mu­nities in Notre Dame and families across the province did not hear any urgency in the Throne Speech on the child-care file. It's nowhere near time to celebrate yet on this child-care file. Many child-care centres and families are still operating in crisis and emergency mode when it comes to sufficient high-quality child care in this province.

      Note about infra­structure: The Throne Speech also high­lighted the gov­ern­ment's focus on infra­structure dev­elop­ment to keep em­ploy­ment levels up. My main comment here is to highlight for the gov­ern­ment the necessity of taking public leadership when it comes to ensuring the inclusion of women, young people, apprentices and other Manitobans who have been disproportionally hit by the COVID economic impacts. The gov­ern­ment needs to implement an inclusive strategy to make these coming infra­structure jobs ac­ces­si­ble to Manitobans who, historically, are not able to be part of the skilled trades and con­struction sectors.

      Other juris­dic­tions, like Newfoundland, have suc­cess­fully included women in the skilled trades by funding the Office to Advance Women Apprentices and through strong part­ner­ships with labour. Madam Speaker, 3.4 per cent of building trades workers in Manitoba are women, as opposed to Newfoundland that has nearly 14 per cent of certified building trades workers as women workers. Under Pallister's leader­ship, ap­prentice­ship programs and social enter­prise involvement was viewed as red tape when, in fact, ap­prentice­ship programs, social enterprises and in­clu­sive gov­ern­ment procurement practices are proven practices in building a strong, inclusive gen­era­tion of skilled workers.

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      I'm calling on the Stefanson gov­ern­ment to change course and do the right thing and ensure that the economic recovery will include those that were hardest hit financially by COVID, namely women, young people and the BIPOC com­mu­nity in Manitoba. This gov­ern­ment needs to act to ensure that those on the margins can find work through retraining programs and wage subsidies. Between 2018 and 2024, Manitoba will need over 20,000 trades workers. This demand will be much easier to fill if more women, new­comers, youth and BIPOC com­mu­nity members enter the trades.

      And my comments on immigration: the Throne Speech also mentioned a focus on immigration and a brief mention of internationally educated nurses to help alleviate the nursing crisis. This gov­ern­ment has largely been silent when it comes to new­comer–when it comes to immigration all through­out the PC years. PC budgets, when it came to new­comer settlement programs, have been frozen for years, acting as de facto cuts to pro­gram­ming for vul­ner­able com­mu­nities.

      Costs have been offloaded to economic and stu­dent immigrants. PCs keep talking about the glory years of the 1990s and the genus of the Prov­incial Nominee Program, but it's high time that we focus on the here and now. As a result of the lack of prov­incial leadership on immigration–the silence, the budget-cutting, the cost-offloading during the Pallister and Stefanson gov­ern­ments' years, we are seeing terrible, warning-level-type immigration numbers, and no amount of hearkening to Bonnie Mitchelson will fix this.

      Concrete action, focus, must fix this because our economy will not grow without immigration. Many sectors absolutely rely on new­comer and migrant workers, and Manitoba is losing residents to other provinces and it needs to become more competitive in order to keep residents here.

      According to the Manitoba Chambers, our cur­rent, alarming out-migration numbers are partly due to our province's lower wages and higher taxes on the middle class. According to Statistics Canada, numbers show that Manitoba was hit hard by net outward migration in 2018-2019, with an in-figure of 10,351 but an out-figure of 19,597 for a net loss of 9,246, and we are seeing now the largest out-migration numbers in decades.

      For the last three years in a row, Manitoba has ranked eighth among 10 provinces for our poor ability to attract and retain immigrants. For the past two years, we've had negative growth rates due to out-migration.

      In my day-to-day involvement with new­comer con­stit­uents, I am hearing that folks are leaving our province because of all the barriers to credential recog­nition that are peculiarly specific to the province of Manitoba. It's much easier and faster and cheaper to get your licence as a health-care pro­fes­sional or as an accountant in other provinces compared to Manitoba.

      Recent data from the Office of the Manitoba Fairness Com­mis­sioner shows that in a four-year span, only 16 per cent of internationally educated pro­fes­sionals get full accreditation and work in their field of study and ex­per­ience. Under the data report section of the Fairness Com­mis­sioner's web page, members of the public can read about the quali­fi­ca­tion recog­nition process. There is also a yearly data–there's also yearly data on specific professions and on the per­centages of how many internationally educated applicants get their pro­fes­sional designations.

      So the latest statistics show that only 5 per cent of internationally educated nurses become fully regis­tered and only 3 per cent of them were able to do it one year. Again, that's internationally educated nurses that applied to the College of Registered Nurses in Manitoba; only 5 per cent of them were able to get their accreditation.

      Now, for the College of Licensed Practical Nurses of Manitoba, all the internationally educated nurses that applied, only 4 per cent of those applicants become fully registered. All internationally educated applicants who fully registered took more than one year and, on average, took two and a half years to get their accreditation.

      What about psychiatric nurses? Of all those inter­nationally educated applicants attempted to get their accreditation, none got fully registered–that's zero. For occupational therapists, of all internationally edu­cated applicants that attempted to get their ac­credita­tion, zero made it through. For CPAs–chartered pro­fes­sional accountants or internationally educated applicants–only 2 per cent were able to get fully registered–2 per cent.

      So no wonder many new­comers have left and they will continue to leave and migrate to other pro­vinces where it is easier, faster, cheaper to get your quali­fi­ca­tions recog­nized.

      Literally, it's only Manitoba and Quebec that non-Francophonie new­comers are avoiding; Manitoba, because of our poor success rates in accreditation and Quebec, due to the French require­ments.

      The credential recog­nition processes in the pro­vince, parti­cularly for internationally edu­ca­ted nurses, have been unfair for a long time. The grants that the gov­ern­ment recently announced to assist IENs will address the financial hardship component, but there are many more obstacles left. The gov­ern­ment needs to follow the recom­men­dations of the Fairness Com­mis­sioner and waive multiple English retesting com­ponents and ensure that the tests that internationally educated nurses must pass, domestic graduates would pass as well.

      Internationally educated nurses have not asked to make this process easier; they have only ever asked to make this process fair. And this gov­ern­ment, in ad­dition, can and ought to provide public health care to international students and migrant workers who provide essential work that many Manitobans have refused to do because of the low pay, because it's precarious work and due to the harsh and dangerous work con­di­tions.

      Health care is a basic human right, and a fun­da­mental part of respon­si­ble public health. Many people in Manitoba are not covered by prov­incial health care. That includes migrant workers with work permits of less than one year, inter­national students and those undocumented residents who have lost their status. The pandemic has clearly identified the need for everyone in Manitoba to have access to public health care, to protect the health and safety of all who live in this province. So I urge this gov­ern­ment to consider reinstating public health coverage for inter­national students, and for extending public health coverage to those who migrate to Manitoba to work in this province.

      A few notes on recon­ciliation. This Throne Speech alluded to recon­ciliation and the Stefanson gov­ern­ment as signalling it is ready to break from the past and begin on this true path. My NDP colleagues, like the MLA for Keewatinook, the MLA for The Pas-Kameesak, the MLA for Point Douglas, the MLA for St. Johns and the MLA for Fort Rouge, they all have lived ex­per­ience and a clear vision for how recon­ciliation must translate to concrete policy on the prov­incial level.

      There also needs to be a whole-of-gov­ern­ment approach to recon­ciliation, and a reset of carrying on as usual, and how things have been always done. Our caucus met with leadership at MKO to discuss the importance of repatriation of birthing services to the North, and to rural and remote com­mu­nities. Women in northern com­mu­nities routinely give birth outside their home com­mu­nities. This is very, very difficult for women and their families and leads to ad­di­tional stressors and negative con­se­quences.

      In addition to repatriation of birthing services, northern, rural and remote com­mu­nities are calling on this gov­ern­ment to provide culturally ap­pro­priate domestic violence counselling services and addiction services like managed alcohol programs.

      Now, on behalf of the com­mu­nities of Notre Dame, I'm spe­cific­ally calling on this gov­ern­ment that–because it wasn't addressed in the Throne Speech, to invest in addictions pre­ven­tion pro­gram­ming, on funding a public health awareness campaign, on mitigating the effects of lead con­tami­nation and provi­ding more supports for adult edu­ca­tion, adult literacy and numeracy in our com­mu­nities.

      Our com­mu­nities in Notre Dame are urging this prov­incial gov­ern­ment to take action–sorry–our com­mu­nities were not included in this Throne Speech. We have been spe­cific­ally asking for this gov­ern­ment to address the effects of historical sources of lead con­tami­nation and environ­mental racism. Our com­mu­nities are urging the prov­incial gov­ern­ment to take action to reduce people's exposure to 'leadent'–Winnipeg and to implement the recom­men­dations proposed by the prov­incial gov­ern­ment's in­de­pen­dent review, including the creation of an action plan for the Weston neighbourhood, developing a lead awareness com­muni­cations and outreach program and requisi­tioning a more in-depth study and create a tracking program for those tested for blood lead levels so that medical pro­fes­sionals can follow up with this.

      Our com­mu­nities are not backing down on this. Recently, I joined an advisory com­mit­tee named Healthy Environ­ment, Healthy Neighbourhood, and our task is to bring forward policy proposals to adequately address lead con­tami­nation in Winnipeg com­mu­nities, including Centennial, Daniel McIntyre, Glenelm, Chalmers, North Point Douglas, River-Osborne, Sargent Park, St. Boniface, West End, Weston and Wolseley-Minto.

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      And a few notes on adult edu­ca­tion: Last fall, I tried to send letters home to parents about lead con­tami­nation in my con­stit­uency, but the vice-principal at the school told me that they don't send letters home, as many parents can't read. High school graduation rates remain low in the com­mu­nities that I represent. High school dropout rates are double that of the city average. The prov­incial gov­ern­ment did not speak about this in the Throne Speech, and should commit to expanding adult edu­ca­tion, funding for which has declined for years. In 2019-2020, the expenditure on adult edu­ca­tion was a mere two-thirds of 1 per cent of the Province's total edu­ca­tion budget, yet, there is strong evidence that adult edu­ca­tion is a low-cost and effective anti-poverty strategy. Adult edu­ca­tion helps folks enter the paid labour force or to qualify for better-paid jobs.

      And another short note on pre­ven­tion and treat­ment: I get prosecutors calling my con­stit­uency. Do you guys–do the rest of the MLAs in this House get this? Prosecutors asking me to provide a court state­ment to discuss what's happening, to discuss how terribly this–the meth crisis has been in our com­mu­nity. I would just like to say that pre­ven­tion is part of this. It's a huge part of it and I think that we are currently underspending in what we should be on pre­ven­tion dollars.

      And, in addition to that, I've continued to ask the multiple Health ministers over the last few years if they could please fund Sunshine House on Logan Avenue in our con­stit­uency, an–a managed alcohol program, for $140,000 per year. I've continually been asking for this and we still wait to hear from this. We would love to see more about pre­ven­tion and mitiga­tion efforts in the Throne Speech.

      And, because of all these components that were significantly missing in the Throne Speech, Mr. Deputy Speaker, I will not be voting in favour of it.

      Thank you.

Ms. Amanda Lathlin (The Pas-Kameesak): It's always an honour to stand here before you, to put a few words on record and provide my rebuttal for the Speech from the Throne 2021.

      I have been the MLA for The Pas-Kameesak for six years. My challenge has grown and 2019, when I went from 10 com­mu­nities to 17 com­mu­nities, which was a challenge I welcomed with open arms; so got to meet a lot more people, made more friends and great com­mu­nities that I represent. So, let me start my speech here.

      First of all, I just wanted to say that I come all the way from Treaty 5 territory, The Pas-Opaskwayak, and it's an honour to be here within Treaty 1 Territory and it's–as an Indigenous Cree woman, it's–today was the first time I heard the land acknowl­edgement in here. And I've been bumming around this building since I was 15 years old and I'm now 45, and this is the first time I have ever seen this face welcome and respect of culture that should have been here a long, long time ago, but–

Some Honourable Members: Oh, oh.

Ms. Lathlin: Thank you.

      I also want to acknowl­edge Councillor Mike Bignell from Opaskwayak Cree Nation. He was the young man who sang and played his drum when the Lieutenant Governor entered the Chamber. I was watching virtually and it was a pleasant, pleasant sur­prise to see that young man–somebody from my com­mu­nity–repre­sen­ting. And when I was watching from The Pas, I did–it moved me, it truly moved me. I really wish I was here in person, but there's going to be many, many op­por­tun­ities where we will hear our drum and our song within this building.

      So, I just wanted to go on that to my speech.

      One, the Pallister Conservatives did a lot of damage to our province. This was Premier Stefanson's chance to prove she's different. But it's clear nothing–

Mr. Deputy Speaker: Order. I just want to remind the member that–to address by the–either their title or their con­stit­uency.

Ms. Lathlin: This was the Premier's (Mrs. Stefanson) chance to prove that she's different, but it's clear nothing has changed. Premier–the Premier's Throne Speech is just a bunch of Pallister's repeats.

      Through­out the Throne Speech, I keep on hearing words from the members opposite: fresh start, a new style of governing. I don't believe that at all because they stood side by side while these terrible decisions were being made on behalf of Manitoba. We had the deputy premier who is now the Premier stand quietly, and did not intervene when these terrible, terrible decisions were made on behalf of Manitobans. And as an Indigenous woman, it was absolutely insulting and one hundred steps backwards when Pallister was–made those disgusting remarks about Indigenous people; and, with all due respect, good riddance right there.

      So, with that, I just wanted to talk about the lan­guage the people opposite are using: fresh start–fresh start–new style of governing; I don't think so.

       One thing I want everyone to hear there. When my late father was alive, he always told me this very wise advice: be careful of who you run with because you catch the fleas from the dogs you run with; and that's exactly what's going on here, and fleas are hard to get rid of. So be careful who you become friends with.

Madam Speaker in the Chair

      So with that all together, this pack, they enabled Pallister with his agenda. We are now in the Pallister-Stefanson governments.

      Now, we owe it to the people of Manitoba to fix the damage caused by the members opposite. The NDP are ready to solve problems–are ready to solve 'promblems' and not make them worse. So I'm happy to stand here with my team, where we are here to help families thrive by paying workers a living, decent wage; calling an in­de­pen­dent inquiry into the pan­demic so we can learn from our mistakes and build a more resilient health-care system, economy and pro­vince for all of us.

      So, with respect to health-care workers and their–oh, and respect our health-care workers and follow their advice. And we also stand on this side of the House where we care–we want to improve care for seniors by increasing direct hours of care and creating a seniors advocate for oversight.

      In regards to the northern Manitoba, the PC's Throne Speech didn't address the real challenges that are facing northern families such as mine. Families are struggling to make ends meet as the cost of every­thing like food, gas and home heating goes up. You should see my hydro bill in The Pas.

      There is so much boarded-up social housing in northern Manitoba; it's quite confusing. We have so many poor families, especially families who need to be within a home in order to be reunited with their children, but there's no social housing; they're all boarded up. And I did ask the Minister of Families (Ms. Squires), maybe two years ago, if I could have a direct number of how many social housing that we have in our region, how many that should be fixed up so we can have families living within these homes and perhaps reunite with children, like some families that I know right now.

      And to tell you the truth, the family–the Minister of Families did help me with this one case work when it did have to do with Manitoba Housing. But, you know what? That has to happen more often and across Manitoba. We need to get these houses up and fixed so families can actually live in there and actually have a decent life.

      And also, too, I wanted to talk about CFS within this Throne Speech. I know it's just a directive, but CFS–especially when we have one of the highest numbers of children in care within the Prairie pro­vinces, I think some­thing should be done in regards to–in policy change. What I want to see from this gov­ern­ment–and I want to work with this gov­ern­ment in regards to policy change–I think there should be a direct environ­ment for our children's voices to be heard; such as, we need to hear their voices and concerns. When I bought up the question in regards to raising the age from 18–yes, we have resources from 18 to 21 years old, but it should be from 18 to 25.

      I have few children that are under my wing that are afraid–they're CFS lifers, and they're afraid to turn 18. They think they're going to be on the street. They think they're going to graduate into the jail system. And they deserve a fighting chance, these children.

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      They deserved to be mentioned in the Throne Speech. They deserve to be mentioned in the budget. We need to have a safe environ­ment for these children's voices to be heard. We need to hear from them how bad this system is. They should be the ones telling us the policy and the legis­lation changes that should be done, and I want to provide that environ­ment for those children.

      And I started off with my daughter. When she had the op­por­tun­ity to talk as a junior chief and council member for OCN, she talked on behalf of the children and how it is to be within that system. She described it as a resi­den­tial school system. Right? Think about it: How many children graduated while they were in the resi­den­tial school system and went on to post-secondary? How many children graduated while they were in the CFS system and went on to post-secondary? Not too many.

      So with that, I just wanted to go on about just a couple of more issues that have come up in my con­stit­uency that need concern. 'Rual' health, ambulance services: that needs to be improved. I think that should be within the Throne Speech and within the Health budget. The health services in northern Manitoba and rural Manitoba are absolutely horrible.

      The ambulance service in Fisher and Peguis First Nation, they share the same building as the radio station. There's a hole in the ceiling where there–a vent fell through into their ceiling. They're in dire need of a brand-new ambulance building, and the workers at that same ambulance service, they feel they don't get attention from the province because of the clients that they serve.

      They serve Indigenous com­mu­nities. Why are their dollars so lower compared to the com­mu­nity in Arborg? So that's some­thing that should be addressed, and I will follow up as an MLA for those con­stit­uents that are living there.

      Also, too, Prov­incial Road 224: roads need to be focused on within our Indigenous com­mu­nities, not just outlying non-Indigenous com­mu­nities. And I'm saying that as an Indigenous person that we are overlooked. You know, we're also Manitobans, too, and we should also be in that budget, as well.

      And mental health for youth–mental health re­sources for youth should also be mentioned, as well. We all know here. We all know my struggles that I went through with my two teenagers. I don't know how many times we were medevac'd–maybe five in total. Winnipeg, Brandon–medevac'd, when, if there was proper psychiatric services and assessments in The Pas, families like mine wouldn't have to leave the com­mu­nities, okay?

      So I'm ending my throne speech by bringing up these top issues that are within my con­stit­uency. I'm sure we on this side of the House understand I'm not being dramatic. These are real life issues. Like, some­body mentioned here we were being dramatic. No. We know what real life is about.

      So on this side of the House, I will not support this Throne Speech. I will stand with my team mem­bers here and make sure that we provide a better life for Manitobans, including northern Manitoba.

      Ekosi.

Mr. Andrew Micklefield (Rossmere): It's an honour to address the Throne Speech, which truly is historic. It's historic to have not only Manitoba's first female Premier (Mrs. Stefanson) but also Manitoba's, I believe, first female Lieutenant Governor presiding during when that was given, of course, yourself, Madam Speaker, the first female Speaker, and I would be remiss if I did not note that we have a female head clerk as well.

      Madam Speaker, these are unusual times. They are historic times, and they are times where one should pause and note and look around and recall. We have come a long way. It's also notable that we have embraced a land acknowl­edgement, which has been well received by Indigenous, Métis, Inuit com­mu­nities, and I want to acknowl­edge those–members of those com­mu­nities who are friends of mine.

      My heart was touched when I heard the Indigenous drummer at the begin­ning of Throne Speech. That was a special moment and some­thing I don't think I will ever forget.

      Madam Speaker, I believe that our Premier is the right woman in the right job at the right time. With those words on the record, I am very happy to cede the floor in just a moment and welcome Manitoba's first female premier.

      It's an honour to be in this place. I think for all of us it's an honour. It's an honour to be part of a gov­ern­ment that has a direction, that is committed to lis­tening, to engaging. And, Madam Speaker, if you look at the Premier's (Mrs. Stefanson) social media, you will see that is exactly what she is doing.

      So, Madam Speaker, there is much to celebrate. There is much to acknowl­edge, and I do both of those things. So, without any reservation, I'm happy to con­tinue to speak about this marvellous Throne Speech.

      Madam Speaker, there have been some faith communities who have behaved in ways which are regrettable, but I want to acknowl­edge there are many more faith com­mu­nities who have been doing the right thing, who have been respecting the rules, who have been limiting their capacities and respecting the health orders. And I do want to just give a–I do want to acknowl­edge them and thank them for their co‑operation, for the good spirit that they are operating with and in.

      Madam Speaker, I was thrilled–and I do want to draw attention to 400 ad­di­tional nursing seats that are going to be opened up in our province. These are definitely challenging times, and we need real solu­tions that are going to come into play, and that's one of them, as is, by the way, I would add, allowing third- and fourth-year nursing students into the hospital wards to help out in practical ways. This is common sense stuff. These students will make a real difference, and it's an example of the common sense solutions I think we're going to see in this province in the next couple of years and for many more going forward.

      And without any further ado, I want to cede the floor to the person who will lead this province for the next couple of years, Manitoba's first Premier. Madam Speaker, I would invite you and everybody in this House to join me in welcoming Manitoba's first Premier to the floor to speak to the Throne Speech.

      Thank you, Madam Speaker.

Hon. Heather Stefanson (Premier): I want to thank my colleague for those kind words just prior to me. And it's, indeed, Madam Speaker, a great pleasure to rise today and speak to the 2021 Speech from the Throne.

      But, Madam Speaker, before I do, I want to begin by thanking our current Lieutenant Governor for delivering the Throne Speech the other day. It was a special day. In her opening remarks she mentioned that this will likely be the last time that she will deliver a Speech from the Throne, one of the most im­por­tant duties, as we all know, of a Lieutenant Governor. She performed it, as she has so many times in the past, with excellence.

      In my time as deputy premier, I attended many events with Her Honour, an in­cred­ibly difficult act to follow, as we all know, and I was always honoured to be with her. I witnessed her first–I witnessed first-hand the genuine interest and care that she held for every individual Manitoban with whom she inter­acted. Over the last six and a half years, she brought to the office of the Lieutenant Governor a calibre of sincerity that has inspired Manitobans from every corner of our province.

      This role as Lieutenant Governor is one that she has performed with grace, class and compassion through­out her tenure, but this is nothing new for Her Honour Janice Filmon. Just some of the many con­tri­bu­tions she has made to our com­mu­nity include the  chair of the board of CancerCare Manitoba Foundation; founding chair, Nellie McClung Foundation; founding chair, Leadership in Winnipeg; board member, Winnipeg Airports Author­ity; chair of Foundations for Health campaign; inaugural chair of Winnipeg festival of trees and chair of the festival's 1999 Pan American Games. Just a few examples of a  lifetime of service to people of the province of Manitoba, the legacy of an in­cred­ible woman who I consider a mentor and role model.

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      I want to take this op­por­tun­ity to say thank you. Thank you, Your Honour, for the dedi­cation and commit­ment to your duties as Lieutenant Governor but also thank you for your passion for the people of this great province, which you have shared over a lifetime of com­mu­nity and public service.

      Madam Speaker, Her Honour has been an example of compassion, sincerity and under­standing during her tenure in office, an example to all Manitobans. She is certainly an example we plan to learn from as we start forward on a new path as outlined in the Speech from the Throne.

      The speech set out clear, definitive new direction on which our gov­ern­ment is embarking: one of truth, recon­ciliation, col­lab­o­ration, inclusivity and under­standing but also one of humility, of hard work and delivery of results for Manitobans. Progressing together, we will build a better Manitoba with a bright future for all who choose to call it home.

      The speech featured six key themes on which we  will focus: recon­ciliation, health care, families, homelessness, child care, edu­ca­tion, economic re­covery and climate.

      On recon­ciliation, Madam Speaker, our gov­ern­ment has already taken critical steps to rebuilding broken relationships. Monday was a historic day in this place, as a formal land acknowl­edgement was read for the first time. This is just one step in our path of recon­ciliation and respect for Indigenous people in our province.

      We know we have much work to do. The tragic legacy and damage of resi­den­tial schools and colo­niza­tion is deep. It is the respon­si­bility of all Manitobans to work towards true equality together. This we must do so we can build a better future for all.

      Manitobans have faced many challenges over the  last few years. The un­pre­cedented impact of COVID‑19 has been felt across our province and indeed, Madam Speaker, as you know, around the world. We know we are not out of this pandemic yet. More must be done to ensure the health and safety of all Manitobans, and our gov­ern­ment is taking action.

      The Throne Speech highlights our commit­ment to health care: a task force to address the surgical and diag­nos­tic backlog, an ad­di­tional 400 nursing seats with every graduate being offered a job right here in Manitoba, expansion of the presumptive work-related cancers list for our fire­fighters to a world‑leading standard and a firm commit­ment to building a more responsive and reliable system of mental health and addiction services in the province. Our health-care pro­fes­sionals have been exemplary through­out this process, increasing capacity, improving processes while still provi­ding the level of care Manitobans expect and deserve.

      A sincere thank you to all of our health-care workers for their continued commit­ment to the health and well-being of our fellow citizens.

      Care of our most vul­ner­able is a top priority for  our gov­ern­ment, parti­cularly our homeless and housing‑insecure popu­la­tions. The Throne Speech committed to a winter homelessness strategy and I am pleased to note for the House that the first step of the strategy has already been under­taken. Our gov­ern­ment has partnered with End Homelessness Winnipeg to build up to 150 new warming spaces at 190 Disraeli. These will be operated in col­lab­o­ration with Indigenous partners and help to ensure that all Manitobans have a warm place to go this winter. And I want to thank the Minister of Families (Ms. Squires) for her involvement in moving this forward.

      The Throne Speech recognizes that Manitobans have been clear: our edu­ca­tion system must better prepare students for future success. I am proud to lead a gov­ern­ment that will build on the im­por­tant work of the K‑to‑12 review, to build a fair, trans­par­ent and equitable public edu­ca­tion system in our province, and I want to thank our Minister of Edu­ca­tion (Mr. Cullen) for his work on this very im­por­tant initiative in Manitoba.

      We further commit to supporting closer col­labora­tion of our advanced edu­ca­tion in­sti­tutions and employers in Manitoba, to ensure that post‑secondary in­sti­tutions are setting students up for success. And I want to thank our minister of advanced edu­ca­tion for every­thing that he has done to move this file forward.

      There is a critical labour shortage facing not just this province but all of Canada, making it in­creasingly difficult to attract and retain talent. We must strength­en the alignment between institutions and the labour market so Manitobans have the right skills to succeed here at home.

      Our Prov­incial Nominee Program has been an in­cred­ible benefit to the prov­incial economy and the province as a whole, building on a renewed–and then the province as a whole. Building on a renewed re­la­tion­ship with the federal gov­ern­ment, we will en­hance  the program to ensure that Canadians, new Manitobans, are given full op­por­tun­ity to thrive and succeed right here in Manitoba.

      Madam Speaker, this Throne Speech defines a clear principle: climate change must be addressed. Its impacts cross all juris­dic­tions and borders, and that is why it is so im­por­tant to work with our federal gov­ern­ment on a mutually agreed-to plan that recog­nizes  the sig­ni­fi­cant work already under­taken by Manitobans to combat it and its impacts here at home.

      In short, Madam Speaker, the Speech from the Throne provided the vision for going forward: a more helpful, col­lab­o­rative and engaging vision for the future of our province. We are here to work with all Manitobans so that we can emerge from this pandemic into a brighter future.

      There are challenges ahead; there's no question. But we are ready, Madam Speaker.

      I want to thank all of our Cabinet colleagues–all of my Cabinet colleagues, all of our caucus–for the con­tinued dedi­cation and support they have had on all of these initiatives moving forward. They have been absolutely in­cred­ible in all of this, Madam Speaker, and I want to thank them from the bottom of my heart for all of their efforts over the course of the last number of years to getting to where we are today. And I thank them for that.

      We have the team, we have the vision and we have the commit­ment and deter­min­ation to build a better province that works for all Manitobans, and that is exactly what we are doing with this Throne Speech.

      Thank you very much, Madam Speaker, for allowing me to say a few words today.

Madam Speaker: The hour being–[interjection] No?

      Is the House ready for the question?

Some Honourable Members: Question.

Madam Speaker: The question before the House–let me get this clear, is the proposed sub­amend­ment?

      The question before the House is the proposed sub­amend­ment of the leader of the Liberal–or the member for St. Boniface (Mr. Lamont), that is the sub­amend­ment to the motion for an address in reply to the Speech from the Throne.

      Do members wish to have the sub­amend­ment read?

Some Honourable Members: No.

Madam Speaker: Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the sub­amend­ment?

An Honourable Member: Aye.

Some Honourable Members: No.

Madam Speaker: I declare the sub­amend­ment defeated.

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      Apparently, there was a Yea and I did not hear it and I apologize.

Voice Vote

Madam Speaker: All those in favour of the motion, please say yea.

Some Honourable Members: Yea.

Madam Speaker: All those opposed, please say nay.

Some Honourable Members: Nay.

Madam Speaker: In my opinion, the Nays have it. I declare the motion lost.

Hon. Jon Gerrard (River Heights): On division.

Madam Speaker: On division.

 

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Madam Speaker: The question now before the House is the proposed amend­ment, moved by the hon­our­able Leader of the Official Op­posi­tion (Mr. Kinew), to the motion for an address in reply to the Speech from the Throne.

      Do members wish to have the amend­ment read?

Some Honourable Members: No.

Some Honourable Members: Yes.

Madam Speaker: I hear a yes.

      The proposed motion of the hon­our­able Leader of the Official Op­posi­tion and amend­ment is as follows:

THAT the motion be amended by adding at the end of–the following words:

But this House regrets that the prov­incial gov­ern­ment has:

(a)  failed to provide any plan to make life more affordable for Manitobans by not mentioning affordability and the rising cost of living due to higher hydro bills, grocery bills and more as Manitobans head into the holiday season; and

(b)  failed to call an in­de­pen­dent public inquiry into Manitoba's pandemic response to learn from its mistakes and bring forward changes to improve the lives of Manitoba families and strengthen the health-care system; and

(c)  failed to provide any imme­diate supports to address the health-care crisis across the province from the north to the south; and

(d)  failed seniors and elders in part by forcing them to move across Manitoba to make room in hospitals because of its failure to build new personal-care-home beds and address the health-care crisis in the province; and

(e)  failed to commit to any real invest­ments or changes to address the growing surgical and diag­nos­tic backlog in the province; and

(f)  tried to change the channel from former premier Brian Pallister but failed by repeating 16 of his previous commit­ments; and

(g)  continued to put the long-term success of Manitoba students at risk by pushing ahead with an out-of-date review of the edu­ca­tion system commissioned by former premier Brian Pallister; and

(h)  continued the inter­ference initiated by former premier Brian Pallister in post-secondary in­sti­tutions, leading to an ongoing strike at the University of Manitoba which is impacting the ability of students to learn; and

(i)   offered no commit­ment to implement a living wage, paid sick days, or health and safety supports for working Manitobans to help them out of poverty and keep them safe and healthy at work; and

(j)   failed to mention Manitoba Hydro and offer a plan to use the clean advantage of Hydro to address climate change, create jobs, advance recon­ciliation and keep rates low and keep life affordable; and

(k)  continued to fight with the City of Winnipeg by pushing a failed attempt at priva­tiza­tion that will cost Manitobans jobs, delaying upgrades to the North and wastewater treatment plant, which would help protect the lakes and rivers of the province; and

(l)   failed to provide any sub­stan­tial targets or initiatives to address climate change to prevent devastating weather events that impact producers, the length and quality of winter roads, the environ­ment, the economy and all Manitobans; and

(m) neglected to provide any real commit­ments to advancing recon­ciliation or apologize for the failures and racially insensitive comments of former premier Brian Pallister; and

(n)  failed to present clear measures to support women and gender-diverse Manitobans by committing to support the provision of menstrual products for women, girls and gender-diverse people in schools or committing to ensure reproductive health care falls under the purview of the Minister of Health and Seniors Care; and

(o)  failed to commit to supports for other major com­mu­nities such as Brandon and Dauphin and ending the funding freeze to munici­palities; and

(p)  failed to produce a meaningful strategy to revive Manitoba's creative industries or present a real strategy for Manitoba jobs in different sectors; and

(q)  refused to address the addictions and housing crisis by failing to provide long-term invest­ments into harm-reduction initiatives and affordable social housing.

As a con­se­quence of these and many other failings, the prov­incial gov­ern­ment has thereby lost the trust and con­fi­dence of the people of Manitoba and this House.

      Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the amend­ment?

Some Honourable Members: Yes.

Some Honourable Members: No.

Voice Vote

Madam Speaker: All those in favour of the amend­ment, please say yea.

Some Honourable Members: Yea.

Madam Speaker: All those opposed, please say nay.

Some Honourable Members: Nay.

Madam Speaker: In my opinion, the Nays have it.

Recorded Vote

Ms. Nahanni Fontaine (Official Opposition House Leader): A recorded vote, Madam Speaker.

Madam Speaker: A recorded vote having been called, call in the members.

      The question before the House is the amend­ment by the Official Op­posi­tion Leader on the Throne Speech.

Division

A RECORDED VOTE was taken, the result being as follows:

Yeas

Adams, Altomare, Asagwara, Brar, Bushie, Fontaine, Gerrard, Kinew, Lamont, Lamoureux, Lathlin, Lindsey, Maloway, Marcelino, Moses, Naylor, Sala, Sandhu, Smith (Point Douglas), Wasyliw, Wiebe.

Nays

Clarke, Cox, Cullen, Eichler, Ewasko, Fielding, Friesen, Goertzen, Gordon, Guenter, Guillemard, Helwer, Isleifson, Johnson, Johnston, Lagassé, Lagimodiere, Martin, Micklefield, Morley‑Lecomte, Nesbitt, Pedersen, Piwniuk, Reyes, Schuler, Smith (Lagimodière), Smook, Squires, Stefanson, Teitsma, Wharton, Wishart, Wowchuk.

Clerk (Ms. Patricia Chaychuk): Yeas 21, Nays 33.

* (16:40)

Madam Speaker: Motion is accordingly defeated.

* * *

Madam Speaker: The question now before the House is the motion of the hon­our­able member for Lagimodière (Mr. Smith), that is, the motion for an address in reply to the Speech from the Throne.

      Do members wish to have the motion read?

Some Honourable Members: No.

Madam Speaker: Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some Honourable Members: Yes.

Some Honourable Members: No.

Madam Speaker: I hear noes.

Voice Vote

Madam Speaker: All those in favour of the motion, please say yea.

Some Honourable Members: Yea.

Madam Speaker: All those opposed, please say nay.

Some Honourable Members: Nay.

Madam Speaker: In my opinion, the Yeas have it.

      The hon­our­able Official Op­posi­tion House Leader (Ms. Fontaine)?

Recorded Vote

Hon. Kelvin Goertzen (Government House Leader): A recorded vote, Madam Speaker.

Madam Speaker: A recorded vote having been called, call in the members.

      The question before the House is the motion of the hon­our­able member for Lagimodière.

Division

A RECORDED VOTE was taken, the result being as follows:

Yeas

Clarke, Cox, Cullen, Eichler, Ewasko, Fielding, Friesen, Goertzen, Gordon, Guenter, Guillemard, Helwer, Isleifson, Johnson, Johnston, Lagassé, Lagimodiere, Martin, Micklefield, Morley‑Lecomte, Nesbitt, Pedersen, Piwniuk, Reyes, Schuler, Smith (Lagimodière), Smook, Squires, Stefanson, Teitsma, Wharton, Wishart, Wowchuk.

Nays

Adams, Altomare, Asagwara, Brar, Bushie, Fontaine, Gerrard, Kinew, Lamont, Lamoureux, Lathlin, Lindsey, Maloway, Marcelino, Moses, Naylor, Sala, Sandhu, Smith (Point Douglas), Wasyliw, Wiebe.

Clerk: Yeas 33, Nays 21.

Madam Speaker: The motion is accordingly passed.

* * *

Mr. Goertzen: Is there will of members to call it 5 p.m.?

Madam Speaker: Is there will of the House to call it 5 p.m.? [Agreed]

      So agreed the hour being 5 p.m. this House is adjourned and stands adjourned until 10 a.m. tomorrow.


 


LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA

Wednesday, December 1, 2021

CONTENTS


Vol. 7

ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS

Introduction of Bills

Bill 209–The Farmers' Markets Week Act

Morley-Lecomte  201

Committee Reports

Standing Committee on Legislative Affairs

First Report

Smook  201

Standing Committee on Justice

First Report

Isleifson  202

Ministerial Statements

World AIDS Day

Gordon  202

Asagwara  203

Lamont 203

Members' Statements

Curling Week in Manitoba

Ewasko  204

Helen Betty Osborne

Lathlin  205

ANAVETS Assiniboia 283

Fielding  205

Communities 4 Families

Naylor 206

Kyle Machan

Wowchuk  206

Speaker's Statement

Driedger 207

Oral Questions

Manitoba's Health-Care System

Kinew   207

Stefanson  207

Transfer of Seniors Out of Community

Kinew   208

Stefanson  209

Surgical and Diagnostic Procedure Backlog

Asagwara  209

Gordon  210

Northern Health Region

Lindsey  211

Gordon  211

Access to Addiction Treatment Services

B. Smith  212

Gordon  212

Canada-Manitoba Child-Care Agreement

Adams 213

Squires 213

HIV/AIDS Medication

Lamont 213

Stefanson  214

Blood-Borne Disease Prevention

Lamont 214

Stefanson  214

Menstrual Product Availability

Lamoureux  214

Cullen  214

Manitoba's Livestock Producers

Wowchuk  215

Eichler 215

Chronic Wasting Disease in Deer Population

Brar 215

Eichler 215

Agricultural Crown Land Leasing

Brar 215

Eichler 215

Petitions

Abortion Services

Asagwara  216

Health-Care Coverage

Moses 216

Louise Bridge

Maloway  217

Provincial Road 224

Lathlin  217

Road Closures

Wiebe  218

National Drug Plan

Gerrard  218

ORDERS OF THE DAY

GOVERNMENT business

Government Motion

Goertzen  219

Gerrard  219

Throne Speech

(Sixth Day of Debate)

Teitsma  220

Naylor 223

Lagimodiere  227

Marcelino  229

Lathlin  232

Micklefield  234

Stefanson  235